I would prefer a bit more openness for the future.

As much as I like working in Softimage, to make a living, I am (re)adopting other solutions.

Maybe that´s a special case but nevertheless, one could describe trying to transfer existing
knowledge to a new realm something common sense should flag desireable.

That as a given, I appreciate info on Houdini, Blender, Cinema, Zbrush, Maya, 3DsMax, etc here, because generally, it´s shared in a context of comparison to Softimage/XSI or at least
as information that can be regarded valueable anyway.

I really appreciate people sharing their experience while transitioning themselves or simply
sharing workflows or tips.

The way I see it, there won´t be much news on Softimage development, be happy to get any news from the community at all and grateful that the people on this list still share and contribute.

Cheers,

tim

I would have actually expected more posts on the latest 3DSMax stuff for example, as it seems it´s something an ICE person would find easy enough to pick up and work with?


Am 16.05.2015 um 07:38 schrieb Mirko Jankovic:
Again no need to police or something just common sense, If there is need mention solution in maya nd point to right discussion or forum but there is absolutely no need to start lengthy discussion how to do 1 click operation in SI with 20 scripts in maya...

On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 7:37 AM, Mirko Jankovic <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I can only agree. Move other software things to other threads, it
    is one thing to mention something if it is solution to specific
    problem but to dedicate next bunch of emails to maya and others it
    is no place or that. There are maya and other software threads to
    discus that in debt.
    If someone asks for help with something in SI, and this is still
    best way and great pool of talented SI ppl, he hardly wanna hear,
    oh do that in maya on blender. f*** that I don;t care about crap
    of the maya or blender. If I wanted or liked to work on them would
    get them and go to maya and other forums.
    God thing about si mailing list is that even when not looking for
    some answers topics arise that are interesting to read and learn
    something new from them.
    But with all other software noise that is increasingly hard. And
    some filtering really is in order.
    Need maya, blender max help and details? Find maya and other
    forums and mailing lists. With little time most ppl have in day
    last thing I wanna spend it is reading about those...

    On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Tenshi S. <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        A valid point, and one that i support entirely. I enter here a
        while ago, because of Softimage, not because of Maya or
        Blender, if i would like to hear about those app i would go to
        the proper forums/mailing list, etc.
        Everytime i come to gmail and verifiy my forums section, i
        encounter a few topics about other things that are not
        Softimage related. What it's the meaning of this mailing list,
        then?

        One thing i support too it's a thread dedicated only to people
        who are migrating or finding solutions, but one thread only,
        not 20 of them saying "Maya it's better because of this, and
        Blender do amazing cycle renders" and blabla.

        Another thing it's threads dedicated only to
        Maya/Blender/3Dmax <> Softimage interaction, that's something
        you really want to learn about it and deserves their own thread.

        C'mon guys, we know Softimage it's EOL, but that doesn't mean
        we need to keep killing it.
        You know that maybe this mailing list it's the only place
        aside from a few forums to talk and keep learning about
        Softimage?

        On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Matt Lind
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            I side with Sven on the matter.

            People seem to have confused the concept of forum with
            mailing list.  If you want to discuss anything and
            everything, go to a forum as it's designed for that sort
            of thing.  people can view only what they desire to view
            and easily ignore what they don't care about.  Migration,
            plugins, tutorials for product X, and whatever will surely
            be welcomed there.

            A mailing list is intended for narrow on-topic discussion
            and not much else because any content submitted is
            distributed to the entire community intended or not.
            Having a lot of non-topic discussion on a mailing list is
            synonymous to being loud and rude in a library while
            people are trying to read and study.  While some tangents
            are OK to keep things interesting, let's try to keep the
            balance in favor of on topic discussion.  Lately the noise
            has been higher than the signal.

            Softimage may be EOL, but some of us must continue using
            it for an indefinite period of time.  When trying to find
            solutions to problems in a timely manner using the
            archives or direct help from the user base, we don't need
            our few remaining channels of support clogged with noise
            causing a potential solution to be missed in sea of false
            positives.


            Matt





            Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 00:17:30 +0200
            From: "Sven Constable" <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>>
            Subject: RE: Is purchasing a new softimage license impossible?

            Then I'd like change "we"with "me" in my statement if you
            feel more comfortable with it. I do respect you the same
            way as I respect the list. This list is the most
            proficient source of information in a same way a platform
            for professionals is meant to discuss even everything
            else. That?s my point.  This is the softimage mailing
            list. I read maya topics all the time. 3Dsmax, for gods
            sake and will tolerate it. And Houdini? Well, it's very
            welcome and Modo for sure. But discusing freeware? C'mon!

            Well the problem I had was not actually arguing with
            specific modeling in Blender but the promotion of it in
            this list. I do not think this is the right place to
            promote software.



            sven



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            <mailto:[email protected]>>
            [email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]> [
            <mailto:[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>>
            mailto:[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>] On
            Behalf Of Eric Thivierge
            Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 11:19 PM
            To:  <mailto:[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>>
            [email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>

            Subject: Re: Is purchasing a new softimage license impossible?



            Hey Sven,

            I'm not sure you have the right to police this list like
            that. I don't mind if this kind of stuff is posted here.
            So when you use the word "we" I'm not sure who you're
            speaking for but it certainly isn't the whole of this list.

            Anyone wanting to share new ways of working and tools
            should be able to. This wasn't forbidden before the EOL
            for Softimage so it shouldn't be now. Especially since the
            EOL.

            Eric T.

            On 5/14/2015 5:10 PM, Sven Constable wrote:

            Hey Chris, we have some problem if people want to promote
            their software in a inappropriate way. ADSK did this this
            on the list. Newtek an SideFX did it as well. It's
            alright. But please keep in mind, this is the softimage
            mailing list.

            If I want to model with hobbyist software, controlled by
            hobbyists I will choose Blender. If you want to promote a
            software for hobbyists, you should use the appropiate forums.



            sven





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