I agree with Tim and most of the people in the list I am sure. Most of the other software discussion is done with a "softimage perspective" which is why is worth having that discussion here and not in Maya/Blender forum.
In regards to Blender, I also used to also draw the line there. However after seeing this Houdini/Blender hair workflow I realised it could be useful for very specific tasks on a pipeline. At the end of the day if it helps me do a better job and go home early then I will embrace it. (Chris, I am interested on this modelling workflow!) https://vimeo.com/88711732 In regards to the noise that we've seen lately. What I would suggest is if someone wants to post a purely Maya thread maybe format it with brackets? [Maya] How do I make an override? [Modo] etc, that will help everyone possibly filter better and ignore if not interested. Best, Cris On Saturday, 16 May 2015, Tim Leydecker <[email protected]> wrote: > I would prefer a bit more openness for the future. > > As much as I like working in Softimage, to make a living, I am > (re)adopting other solutions. > > Maybe that´s a special case but nevertheless, one could describe trying to > transfer existing > knowledge to a new realm something common sense should flag desireable. > > That as a given, I appreciate info on Houdini, Blender, Cinema, Zbrush, > Maya, 3DsMax, etc > here, because generally, it´s shared in a context of comparison to > Softimage/XSI or at least > as information that can be regarded valueable anyway. > > I really appreciate people sharing their experience while transitioning > themselves or simply > sharing workflows or tips. > > The way I see it, there won´t be much news on Softimage development, be > happy to get any news > from the community at all and grateful that the people on this list still > share and contribute. > > Cheers, > > tim > > I would have actually expected more posts on the latest 3DSMax stuff for > example, as it seems > it´s something an ICE person would find easy enough to pick up and work > with? > > > Am 16.05.2015 um 07:38 schrieb Mirko Jankovic: > > Again no need to police or something just common sense, If there is need > mention solution in maya nd point to right discussion or forum but there is > absolutely no need to start lengthy discussion how to do 1 click operation > in SI with 20 scripts in maya... > > On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 7:37 AM, Mirko Jankovic <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > >> I can only agree. Move other software things to other threads, it is >> one thing to mention something if it is solution to specific problem but to >> dedicate next bunch of emails to maya and others it is no place or that. >> There are maya and other software threads to discus that in debt. >> If someone asks for help with something in SI, and this is still best >> way and great pool of talented SI ppl, he hardly wanna hear, oh do that in >> maya on blender. f*** that I don;t care about crap of the maya or blender. >> If I wanted or liked to work on them would get them and go to maya and >> other forums. >> God thing about si mailing list is that even when not looking for some >> answers topics arise that are interesting to read and learn something new >> from them. >> But with all other software noise that is increasingly hard. And some >> filtering really is in order. >> Need maya, blender max help and details? Find maya and other forums and >> mailing lists. With little time most ppl have in day last thing I wanna >> spend it is reading about those... >> >> On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Tenshi S. <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >> >>> A valid point, and one that i support entirely. I enter here a while >>> ago, because of Softimage, not because of Maya or Blender, if i would like >>> to hear about those app i would go to the proper forums/mailing list, etc. >>> Everytime i come to gmail and verifiy my forums section, i encounter a >>> few topics about other things that are not Softimage related. What it's the >>> meaning of this mailing list, then? >>> >>> One thing i support too it's a thread dedicated only to people who are >>> migrating or finding solutions, but one thread only, not 20 of them saying >>> "Maya it's better because of this, and Blender do amazing cycle renders" >>> and blabla. >>> >>> Another thing it's threads dedicated only to Maya/Blender/3Dmax <> >>> Softimage interaction, that's something you really want to learn about it >>> and deserves their own thread. >>> >>> C'mon guys, we know Softimage it's EOL, but that doesn't mean we need >>> to keep killing it. >>> You know that maybe this mailing list it's the only place aside from a >>> few forums to talk and keep learning about Softimage? >>> >>> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Matt Lind <[email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >>> >>>> I side with Sven on the matter. >>>> >>>> People seem to have confused the concept of forum with mailing list. >>>> If you want to discuss anything and everything, go to a forum as it's >>>> designed for that sort of thing. people can view only what they desire to >>>> view and easily ignore what they don't care about. Migration, plugins, >>>> tutorials for product X, and whatever will surely be welcomed there. >>>> >>>> A mailing list is intended for narrow on-topic discussion and not much >>>> else because any content submitted is distributed to the entire community >>>> intended or not. Having a lot of non-topic discussion on a mailing list is >>>> synonymous to being loud and rude in a library while people are trying to >>>> read and study. While some tangents are OK to keep things interesting, >>>> let's try to keep the balance in favor of on topic discussion. Lately the >>>> noise has been higher than the signal. >>>> >>>> Softimage may be EOL, but some of us must continue using it for an >>>> indefinite period of time. When trying to find solutions to problems in a >>>> timely manner using the archives or direct help from the user base, we >>>> don't need our few remaining channels of support clogged with noise causing >>>> a potential solution to be missed in sea of false positives. >>>> >>>> >>>> Matt >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 00:17:30 +0200 >>>> From: "Sven Constable" <[email protected] >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> >>>> Subject: RE: Is purchasing a new softimage license impossible? >>>> >>>> Then I'd like change "we"with "me" in my statement if you feel more >>>> comfortable with it. I do respect you the same way as I respect the list. >>>> This list is the most proficient source of information in a same way a >>>> platform for professionals is meant to discuss even everything else. That?s >>>> my point. This is the softimage mailing list. I read maya topics all the >>>> time. 3Dsmax, for gods sake and will tolerate it. And Houdini? Well, it's >>>> very welcome and Modo for sure. But discusing freeware? C'mon! >>>> >>>> Well the problem I had was not actually arguing with specific modeling >>>> in Blender but the promotion of it in this list. I do not think this is the >>>> right place to promote software. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> sven >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: <mailto:[email protected] >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> >>>> [email protected] >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>>> [ <mailto:[email protected] >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> >>>> mailto:[email protected] >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] >>>> On Behalf Of Eric Thivierge >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 11:19 PM >>>> To: <mailto:[email protected] >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> >>>> [email protected] >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: Is purchasing a new softimage license impossible? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hey Sven, >>>> >>>> I'm not sure you have the right to police this list like that. I don't >>>> mind if this kind of stuff is posted here. So when you use the word "we" >>>> I'm not sure who you're speaking for but it certainly isn't the whole of >>>> this list. >>>> >>>> Anyone wanting to share new ways of working and tools should be able >>>> to. This wasn't forbidden before the EOL for Softimage so it shouldn't be >>>> now. Especially since the EOL. >>>> >>>> Eric T. >>>> >>>> On 5/14/2015 5:10 PM, Sven Constable wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey Chris, we have some problem if people want to promote their >>>> software in a inappropriate way. ADSK did this this on the list. Newtek an >>>> SideFX did it as well. It's alright. But please keep in mind, this is the >>>> softimage mailing list. >>>> >>>> If I want to model with hobbyist software, controlled by hobbyists I >>>> will choose Blender. If you want to promote a software for hobbyists, you >>>> should use the appropiate forums. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> sven >>>> >>> >>> >> > >
