yea I'm the worst kid in the neighborhood, cant help it ;) On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 1:09 AM, Sebastien Sterling < [email protected]> wrote:
> Let's Simmer it down a bit, I'd as soon as not we eat each other over AD, > there are good people on the list. > > Except Mirko, Mirko is terrible :P > > (love ya Mirko !) > > On 12 July 2015 at 15:29, Mirko Jankovic <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> nobody thinks that SI will get back, but 10, 15 or more years of >> experience you cannot replace with something just that fast. >> you can relearn some new software and play with anything else but you >> will hardly get to the point of usability with it any time soon... >> >> so it is HUGE step back for all SI users. >> >> just figure one day someone come to you at your home, demolish >> everything, home car everything and say ok start from ground up now... >> what you build your home once you know how to do it it will be faster now >> now start. >> >> no, negativity about AD will no t go away, ranting about killing SI will >> not go away at least for the time being >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Mario Reitbauer < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Well there's one statement which just describes it: >>> "get it when you need it" or just don't get it. >>> >>> I really think of leaving this mailing list cause most topics are about >>> ranting about Autodesk. >>> At least I don't give a shit about their campaigns, about their products >>> or about anything they do. >>> I use what I need to use to do my job and if Software A isn't there >>> anymore I use Software B which will get me a job. >>> >>> It's about time to get over that whole Softimage EOL topic and move on. >>> Clear your mind and get rid of the negativ thinking. >>> There are quite some tools out there which are worth learning. No sense >>> in keeping the negativ spirit up. Softimage won't come back, Autodesk won't >>> change (they probably gonna become worse). >>> >>> 2015-07-12 14:45 GMT+02:00 Juan Brockhaus <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> regardless to whom this campaign is targeted to... >>>> it is an insult to any professional out there working in this industry. >>>> >>>> even when you just read the facts of the campaign and trying to keep >>>> any emotions aside... >>>> and ignoring anything you know about Maya and it's real performance, >>>> workflow, usability etc... >>>> >>>> - talking about weeks, but you can rent only per month... >>>> - $4.17 a day is based on year subscription... which completely >>>> contradicts the whole 'get it when needed' statement... >>>> - 'awesomeness', 'join the movement', 'equals an hour of your time' >>>> (???), etc... etc... >>>> >>>> ... >>>> speechless... >>>> ...and don't get me stated on the cheaply produced video... >>>> ... >>>> >>>> hey, but maybe someone from Fabric, foundry, SideFX, etc infiltrated >>>> the Autodesk marketing team and was able to get this campaign out there... >>>> LOL ;-) >>>> >>>> ... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Tim Leydecker <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> For taking up a fight with Cinema 4D, Maya needs a serious >>>>> crashcourse and lose some excess wheight. >>>>> >>>>> I have collegues do stuff in Cinema 4D, anything from dynamics, >>>>> multiple projections, "just" rendering smoke with Arnold, >>>>> painting textures in Bodypaint and playing with *.psd layers and >>>>> layered shaders without bothering much. >>>>> >>>>> Umhh, sitting close by, debugging a polygon mesh in Maya 2015sp6Ext1 >>>>> node editor that still has connections to the >>>>> initial shading group even if it shouldn´t, finding out that >>>>> renderlayers are suddenly breaking when switching to >>>>> another render layer, loosing hair about Maya´s own layered >>>>> texture/layered shader, constantly on the edge of >>>>> my seat for not knowing if Maya will last me through this prolonged >>>>> session or not doesn´t feel like it´s time for flip flops. >>>>> >>>>> I´ve started with Maya somewhere around Maya 1.5 / Maya 3.5 /Maya 4. >>>>> At least 10 years of trying to keep a stiff upper lip, >>>>> wading through deep shit and hoping for the best. Years lost with >>>>> running into stupid limitations and trying to soldier on. >>>>> >>>>> I want my life back. >>>>> >>>>> If I wake up on the couch, it´s because I didn´t make it to the bed >>>>> after another exhausting Maya session fighting the program, >>>>> not solving my task. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> tim >>>>> >>>>> P.S: That´s why I don´t want to commit to Autodesk, not because I >>>>> fancy being a spoiled, irresponsible single child brat showing off my >>>>> sneakers, mac book, blog and life style, sneering at anyone who >>>>> doesn´t fit my style googles. Even beer googles are more human... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Am 11.07.2015 um 20:54 schrieb Jordi Bares Dominguez: >>>>> >>>>> It’s clearly targeted to the Cinema4D crowd obviously, designers and >>>>> kind of 1 man band artist/designers/directors running on a laptop and >>>>> darting through london on a uber expensive bicycle. >>>>> >>>>> The problem is that these guys have a great tool in their hands and >>>>> its connection with After Effects is difficult to beat so I see it as a >>>>> very uninformed marketing campaign. >>>>> >>>>> But may be I am wrong and they are going to sell these to my >>>>> mother-in-law too so she can do some dinosaurs and get rich. >>>>> jb >>>>> >>>>> On 11 Jul 2015, at 18:07, Steven Caron < <[email protected]> >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> BUT carpenters do rent some tools... not their core tools but >>>>> typically the larger more expensive tools. Maybe this campaign is not for >>>>> us. ie. The people who use 3d tools everyday. Maybe the people that never >>>>> have used 3d tools before are the focus of this campaign. My colleagues >>>>> and >>>>> I have discussed this a bit and this is one of the conclusions we came to. >>>>> This is a play designed for getting new customers and new revenue, mostly. >>>>> >>>>> I still think this is campaign is completely silly, but I can say I am >>>>> honestly not surprised. >>>>> >>>>> *written with my thumbs >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 11, 2015 8:36 AM, "Sebastien Sterling" < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > It would be so easy to write them off a idiots >>>>> > >>>>> > DCC are TOOLS in nature, they are selling them as a service, which >>>>> is fundamentally incompatible. >>>>> > >>>>> > As a carpenter you don't rent a hammer or a tool belt, not if it is >>>>> your business, that is insane. >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ------------------------------------------ >>> [email protected] >>> 0049 (0)157 86272215 >>> Professor-Brix-Weg 9 >>> 22767 Hamburg >>> ------------------------------------------ >>> >> >> >
