ok they math is not right :) "Because you can afford $4.17 a day. Honestly, you probably spend more than that on coffee." by they calculations we don't work just 52 weeks per year, they included weekends as well :)
and why they assume that people still use cracked Maya 2008? :) On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 1:51 AM, Mirko Jankovic <[email protected]> wrote: > yea I'm the worst kid in the neighborhood, cant help it ;) > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 1:09 AM, Sebastien Sterling < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Let's Simmer it down a bit, I'd as soon as not we eat each other over AD, >> there are good people on the list. >> >> Except Mirko, Mirko is terrible :P >> >> (love ya Mirko !) >> >> On 12 July 2015 at 15:29, Mirko Jankovic <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> nobody thinks that SI will get back, but 10, 15 or more years of >>> experience you cannot replace with something just that fast. >>> you can relearn some new software and play with anything else but you >>> will hardly get to the point of usability with it any time soon... >>> >>> so it is HUGE step back for all SI users. >>> >>> just figure one day someone come to you at your home, demolish >>> everything, home car everything and say ok start from ground up now... >>> what you build your home once you know how to do it it will be faster >>> now now start. >>> >>> no, negativity about AD will no t go away, ranting about killing SI will >>> not go away at least for the time being >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Mario Reitbauer < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Well there's one statement which just describes it: >>>> "get it when you need it" or just don't get it. >>>> >>>> I really think of leaving this mailing list cause most topics are about >>>> ranting about Autodesk. >>>> At least I don't give a shit about their campaigns, >>>> about their products or about anything they do. >>>> I use what I need to use to do my job and if Software A isn't there >>>> anymore I use Software B which will get me a job. >>>> >>>> It's about time to get over that whole Softimage EOL topic and move on. >>>> Clear your mind and get rid of the negativ thinking. >>>> There are quite some tools out there which are worth learning. No sense >>>> in keeping the negativ spirit up. Softimage won't come back, Autodesk won't >>>> change (they probably gonna become worse). >>>> >>>> 2015-07-12 14:45 GMT+02:00 Juan Brockhaus <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> regardless to whom this campaign is targeted to... >>>>> it is an insult to any professional out there working in this industry. >>>>> >>>>> even when you just read the facts of the campaign and trying to keep >>>>> any emotions aside... >>>>> and ignoring anything you know about Maya and it's real performance, >>>>> workflow, usability etc... >>>>> >>>>> - talking about weeks, but you can rent only per month... >>>>> - $4.17 a day is based on year subscription... which completely >>>>> contradicts the whole 'get it when needed' statement... >>>>> - 'awesomeness', 'join the movement', 'equals an hour of your time' >>>>> (???), etc... etc... >>>>> >>>>> ... >>>>> speechless... >>>>> ...and don't get me stated on the cheaply produced video... >>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> hey, but maybe someone from Fabric, foundry, SideFX, etc infiltrated >>>>> the Autodesk marketing team and was able to get this campaign out there... >>>>> LOL ;-) >>>>> >>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Tim Leydecker <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> For taking up a fight with Cinema 4D, Maya needs a serious >>>>>> crashcourse and lose some excess wheight. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have collegues do stuff in Cinema 4D, anything from dynamics, >>>>>> multiple projections, "just" rendering smoke with Arnold, >>>>>> painting textures in Bodypaint and playing with *.psd layers and >>>>>> layered shaders without bothering much. >>>>>> >>>>>> Umhh, sitting close by, debugging a polygon mesh in Maya 2015sp6Ext1 >>>>>> node editor that still has connections to the >>>>>> initial shading group even if it shouldn´t, finding out that >>>>>> renderlayers are suddenly breaking when switching to >>>>>> another render layer, loosing hair about Maya´s own layered >>>>>> texture/layered shader, constantly on the edge of >>>>>> my seat for not knowing if Maya will last me through this prolonged >>>>>> session or not doesn´t feel like it´s time for flip flops. >>>>>> >>>>>> I´ve started with Maya somewhere around Maya 1.5 / Maya 3.5 /Maya 4. >>>>>> At least 10 years of trying to keep a stiff upper lip, >>>>>> wading through deep shit and hoping for the best. Years lost with >>>>>> running into stupid limitations and trying to soldier on. >>>>>> >>>>>> I want my life back. >>>>>> >>>>>> If I wake up on the couch, it´s because I didn´t make it to the bed >>>>>> after another exhausting Maya session fighting the program, >>>>>> not solving my task. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> tim >>>>>> >>>>>> P.S: That´s why I don´t want to commit to Autodesk, not because I >>>>>> fancy being a spoiled, irresponsible single child brat showing off my >>>>>> sneakers, mac book, blog and life style, sneering at anyone who >>>>>> doesn´t fit my style googles. Even beer googles are more human... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Am 11.07.2015 um 20:54 schrieb Jordi Bares Dominguez: >>>>>> >>>>>> It’s clearly targeted to the Cinema4D crowd obviously, designers and >>>>>> kind of 1 man band artist/designers/directors running on a laptop and >>>>>> darting through london on a uber expensive bicycle. >>>>>> >>>>>> The problem is that these guys have a great tool in their hands and >>>>>> its connection with After Effects is difficult to beat so I see it as a >>>>>> very uninformed marketing campaign. >>>>>> >>>>>> But may be I am wrong and they are going to sell these to my >>>>>> mother-in-law too so she can do some dinosaurs and get rich. >>>>>> jb >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11 Jul 2015, at 18:07, Steven Caron < <[email protected]> >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> BUT carpenters do rent some tools... not their core tools but >>>>>> typically the larger more expensive tools. Maybe this campaign is not for >>>>>> us. ie. The people who use 3d tools everyday. Maybe the people that never >>>>>> have used 3d tools before are the focus of this campaign. My colleagues >>>>>> and >>>>>> I have discussed this a bit and this is one of the conclusions we came >>>>>> to. >>>>>> This is a play designed for getting new customers and new revenue, >>>>>> mostly. >>>>>> >>>>>> I still think this is campaign is completely silly, but I can say I >>>>>> am honestly not surprised. >>>>>> >>>>>> *written with my thumbs >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 11, 2015 8:36 AM, "Sebastien Sterling" < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > It would be so easy to write them off a idiots >>>>>> > >>>>>> > DCC are TOOLS in nature, they are selling them as a service, which >>>>>> is fundamentally incompatible. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > As a carpenter you don't rent a hammer or a tool belt, not if it is >>>>>> your business, that is insane. >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>> [email protected] >>>> 0049 (0)157 86272215 >>>> Professor-Brix-Weg 9 >>>> 22767 Hamburg >>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>> >>> >>> >> >
