If i only have that money which people in general DON'T... so, this is a
bad move again by AD. They can do so much better. :)


On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Stefan Kubicek <[email protected]>
wrote:

> That's exactly how I got my license too.
>
> And: I don't remember the original price of Softimage standalone,
> but $3700.- for Maya/Max + Softimage is the same as for Maya/Max only?
> At least in the EU I don't think it has ever been much cheaper?
>
> Not that it's incredibly cheap to begin with, but  2 packages for the
> price of one doesn't sound like that bad a deal to me.
>
>
>
>
> I don´t know about latest developments or newly introduced intricacies
> but I can report a successful transfer of a Softimage license ownership to
> me.
>
> The process involved a signed document of the previous owner, basically
> transfering ownership to me, my adress, my signature and a helpful
> reseller
> making that transfer happen with Autodesk.
>
> If I recall correctly, the transfer process involved a fee but that was
> dropped
> in favour of me directly buying subscription support to "help" the
> transfer process.
>
> It´s a while back and it took a while to sort out the Autodesk database to
> merge
> multiple stray entries in my customer account listings but in the end, it
> all worked out.
>
> The moment the license ownership was transfered, I never had to get back
> to the
> original owner. I saw the document once, signed once and that was it.
>
> --
>
> Personally, I don´t see the disturbing problem in getting a Maya+Softimage
> bundle
> instead of insisting on just the Softimage license. Or a 3DS Max+Softimage
> bundle.
>
> There is a good chance things change in the future and it seems wise to
> brace for
> that by having alternatives ready or to make sure an upgrade or crossgrade
> option
> is readily available?
>
> 4 grand is steep but that´s in line to the prices rising across the board
> a while back.
> I can still remember my first Maya rental license, a month´s usage cost me
> roughly $2000 then.
>
> That is not to say it wouldn´t be desireable to have someone look into the
> general pricing scheme
> of things. Of course, something like 20000-2500 dollars would feel better
> to have to shell out
> as an unexpected expense that may or may not bring venues.
>
> It´s obviously not the same to keep 4 grands in the bank or burried in a
> license eventually needed.
>
> Myself, I wish I could "return" my 3DS Max snippet of my ultimate bundle
> with the next upgrade
> and just go with a Maya centric subscription supported box.
>
> I never really opened 3DS Max since I went for the ultimate bundle. Just
> bought it to open
> a potential client market by being able to say yes to 3DS Max files...
>
>
> --
>
> Cheers,
>
> tim
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 15.09.2015 um 23:37 schrieb Graham Bell:
>
> I'm not sure its that simple. I looked into this EU ruling in my AD time
> and l was told at the time by one of the legal guys that its is Autodesk's
> belief that their license transfer policy is compatible with the EU ruling.
> I would advise checking with Autodesk and/or one of their partners on this
> though, if you wanted to take things further.
> On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 at 22:29, Tom Kleinenberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I believe in the EU second-hand trading of software licenses are legal.
>> http://www.computerweekly.com/news/2240214493/Second-hand-software-legal-or-illegal
>>
>> Of course, finding somebody prepared to sell is possibly problematic.
>>
>> On 15 September 2015 at 22:49, Tenshi . <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I was saving for a Softimage license only, i thought i could get one
>>> from a reseller but now it's clear that we need to spend 4k for a)software
>>> i don't want. b)software that is already dead. This is real?
>>> I want my machine to have at least one softimage license, not student or
>>> something like that.
>>>
>>> Really i don't see what is the trouble selling a dead software, what is
>>> the cost to that if they're saying those licenses are perpetual, so they
>>> don't need any servers to keep checking online? .. I find this whole
>>> situation absurd, really.
>>> If we have money, we can't buy;, and if they gave us an option the only
>>> one is spending too much for something i will not use.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Patrick Neese <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As a hobbyist with a single license...I fear the day I create something
>>>> worth while that I have to figure out how to render with more than one
>>>> machine...since I only have one Mental Ray license for softimage.  I'm
>>>>  trying to learn Maya...  It is unfortunate I can't have a softimage/mental
>>>> ray license (or 20)  transferred to me from someone who just isn't using
>>>> the software anymore...or...is that possible? It appears the LSA could
>>>> allow for a transfer via written approval by Autodesk (2.1.1 of the
>>>> 2014 LSA) :) It's worth a shot :)
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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