Hey Jonathan, glad to hear Motion Tools is still of service. I'm also a
very happy Mootzoid customer and can only wish Eric all the best.

Cheers,

Gustavo E Boehs
Dpto. de Expressão Gráfica | Universidade Federal de Santa Catarina |
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2017-11-10 19:38 GMT-02:00 Jonathan Moore <[email protected]>:

> Hey list, having used Fabric Engine intensively for the last few years I
>> thought it would be nice to share a few words about what it was and the
>> void it leaves as it is no longer developed.
>> Here is the link for that post: 
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gustavoeb.com.br_whatwasfabric&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=NeozuXeR62nTS6Z7_Zo9TUwQCN4FTdWfP3WC30gAUSs&s=ySJbUDUSehMnpTtTcCLz_s4OxbWra5WbnirueJsgmhM&e=
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gustavoeb.com.br_whatwasfabric&d=DwMFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=8vfFVN7WW3wJXUesMte3sebPE52q1bEjTyaCqzlI6k0&s=fSCXc6xiM5wmSc4Gv2-dSKhGMiLKLxo1r2mbLW-Sbs0&e=>
>
>
> Look forward to reading this. I've followed what you've been up to ref
> neural networks and suchlike.
>
> I still make use of Motion Tools on a regular basis as they make perfect
> bedfellows to Eric M's wonderful suit of delights. Really hope Eric isn't
> out in the cold for too long. A man with Eric's talents should have his
> pick of roles in an ideal and fair world.
>
> On 10 November 2017 at 18:41, Gustavo Eggert Boehs <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey list, having used Fabric Engine intensively for the last few years I
>> thought it would be nice to share a few words about what it was and the
>> void it leaves as it is no longer developed.
>> Here is the link for that post: 
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gustavoeb.com.br_whatwasfabric&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=NeozuXeR62nTS6Z7_Zo9TUwQCN4FTdWfP3WC30gAUSs&s=ySJbUDUSehMnpTtTcCLz_s4OxbWra5WbnirueJsgmhM&e=
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gustavoeb.com.br_whatwasfabric&d=DwMFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=8vfFVN7WW3wJXUesMte3sebPE52q1bEjTyaCqzlI6k0&s=fSCXc6xiM5wmSc4Gv2-dSKhGMiLKLxo1r2mbLW-Sbs0&e=>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Gustavo E Boehs
>> Dpto. de Expressão Gráfica | Universidade Federal de Santa Catarina |
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.gustavoeb.com.br_&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=NeozuXeR62nTS6Z7_Zo9TUwQCN4FTdWfP3WC30gAUSs&s=6ZbN0m2JYzF3d6d-v9BjR9VStXK2qpmG4CgvTCC-8q0&e=
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.gustavoeb.com.br_&d=DwMFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=8vfFVN7WW3wJXUesMte3sebPE52q1bEjTyaCqzlI6k0&s=jbOPhbqmV3ZCDUP5f8d_wLKimvJjLNOcX59U9koOapc&e=>
>>
>> 2017-11-07 12:14 GMT-02:00 Enter Reality <[email protected]>:
>>
>>> Just received the email, Lagoa is also gone
>>>
>>> 2017-11-02 22:53 GMT+01:00 Andreas Bystrom <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>>> "What's funny is, I interviewed with Weta and Dneg recently and they
>>>> both asked me a lot about fabricengine (it occupied the majority of the
>>>> interviews) and expressed their intentions to leverage it more.
>>>> When this was announced, we had a meeting at Dneg.  It was like, "Crap,
>>>> well, there goes a few years of invested time for our new system built
>>>> around fabricEngine"
>>>> Weta mentioned that they were tossing their in-house node based system
>>>> they'd spent several years developing in favour of fabric."
>>>>
>>>> do you really think you should be posting something that was discussed
>>>> during a private interview at these companies on a public forum like this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Michael Amasio <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What's funny is, I interviewed with Weta and Dneg recently and they
>>>>> both asked me a lot about fabricengine (it occupied the majority of the
>>>>> interviews) and expressed their intentions to leverage it more.
>>>>>
>>>>> When this was announced, we had a meeting at Dneg.  It was like,
>>>>> "Crap, well, there goes a few years of invested time for our new system
>>>>> built around fabricEngine"
>>>>>
>>>>> Weta mentioned that they were tossing their in-house node based system
>>>>> they'd spent several years developing in favour of fabric.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really sad to see it go.  It looks like it needed just a few more
>>>>> years to find it's footing.  I hope someone buys it and hires a few of the
>>>>> developers to continue its progress.
>>>>> Crap is anyone at Weta right now?  Are they buying it? Go rumors!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> I feel like the core team of Fabric was like "Here's what you want,
>>>>> you just don't know it yet" and even though it was an uphill slog through
>>>>> the mire, companies were just starting to be like, "Yeah, that is what we
>>>>> want".
>>>>> If anything, I've seen real progress at a few places to start
>>>>> replacing DCC's with standalone python inputs.
>>>>> GUI's that gather the core information for things like rigging and CFX
>>>>> in generic containers and then pass it to the DCC for actual execution.
>>>>> I've really enjoyed writing some stuff using USD and passing information
>>>>> between Unreal and Clarisse and Maya.
>>>>> Unreal isn't going anywhere and a lot of work I'm doing could
>>>>> potentially leave the heavy lifting deformers for a product like Ziva.
>>>>> I'm really hoping that the progress some people are making to have
>>>>> Unreal operate as a legitimate animation package continues.  It's still a
>>>>> ways off, but the potential is exciting and Unreal isn't running out of
>>>>> money anytime soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's nice seeing people start to realize that Maya isn't the
>>>>> here-all-end-all of necessity.
>>>>> I personally couldn't be happier if it died a quick and extremely
>>>>> unprofitable demise.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just spent the day rewriting very elegant ICE deformers into hacky
>>>>> Maya versions. *frown*
>>>>>
>>>>> Anywho upwards and downwards!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 28, 2017 5:46 AM, "Jason S" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with everything you said..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I'm also saddened to see fabric close-up it's doors, especially
>>>>>> in this already diversity deprived environment.
>>>>>> & all the best to the FE team!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/27/17 17:59, Jonathan Moore wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MPC and PSYOP output some great work with Fabric Engine but in the
>>>>>> end I always felt it was too narrowly aimed at senior TD's with plenty of
>>>>>> programming experience. The success of ICE was fuelled by the compounds
>>>>>> that acted as a gateway drug to the inner workings. I thought maybe that
>>>>>> Kraken would develop into that gateway drug, but after seeing experienced
>>>>>> riggers feeling out of their comfort zone, soon realised it wasn't to be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When Eric Mootz joined the team I thought maybe that would bring
>>>>>> about tools for technically minded artists who weren't necessarily TD's.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whatever the reasons I feel for the FE team after all their hard
>>>>>> efforts. But I feel as one door closes others will open for them, folk 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> that much talent don't remain jobless for long.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/28/17 5:19, Michael Amasio wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's too bad.
>>>>>> This is rough market.  There's not much money in developing better
>>>>>> solutions.  I guess we'll ride out our DCC's with ancient architecture, 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> wait till one of us becomes a billionaire and funds something cutting 
>>>>>> edge.
>>>>>> I'd love to here more of the story of what happened from some of the
>>>>>> developers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Guess I'll finally follow you to Houdini, Oliver.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 28, 2017 12:31 AM, "Olivier Jeannel" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__fabricengine.com&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=NeozuXeR62nTS6Z7_Zo9TUwQCN4FTdWfP3WC30gAUSs&s=DhJctfPTqd3NsTCWWX2N4tgE8AJhLWMq2JFOx-WYeFE&e=
>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__fabricengine.com&d=DwMBaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=NGIA25JXPveaf5MIyjSYphp-EdBdUfzUWDPJRUxHmAc&s=7kg20PfKIhjC7adrNpSQ_8q1HKu7LJUyPif5TKQJYh8&e=>
>>>>>>>
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