Hey guys and gals,

I stayed subscribed to the list over these last few years since I moved
over to Houdini (haven't touched Softimage in 2 years now!) as occasionally
a little nugget of useful, non-Softimage specific information would still
surface through the Autodesk-hating noise (I should add that I also
massively dislike Autodesk, I just don't see any point in expending as much
energy in stating it as some people).

I think the time has now come to pull the plug and sign off.

Not trying to be dramatic, just felt I should acknowledge the last 18 years
that I've been on the list interacting with so many people I respect so
much who generously took the time to share so much of their knowledge with
a 'bye and thanks for the memories!' post.

So, bye and thanks for the memories!

It's been a great pleasure.  Good luck with whatever the future holds!

DAN



On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, Nicole Beeckmans-Jacqmain <
arc.ann...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> i don't understand why so many users of softimage have , it seems from
> your posts here,
> turned to Maya, which, if less easy to understand, is yet positively
> evolving it's tools, that's why i say AD is good
>
> AD is something like a gentle farmer of the 3d tools.
>
> yet it is a US farmer, which means it is an industry.
>
> if users turn to Maya, it's from being 'encouraged' to do so by their
> bosses in the 3d industry
>
> now why has the industry faltered during the years 2000 between XSI and
> Maya, and finally chosen Maya,
> i might be given counter-argument to that, but I think ''Disney'' (who
> creates the standards, who is the most creative, being a big industrial
> farmer)
> got threatened by the upheaval from the underground which came along with
> non-''Disney'' actors, like the music video scenes and popularisation of
> nodes and mudboxes
> all over the planet, just in a time where it has been decided the Marvel
> DC comic should change the way Hollywood targets the whole planet.
>
> about Nasa, the Nazi scientists from defeated Germany went hired by Nasa
> in the rocket launchers competition against Stalin etc.
>
> (there is a famous underground cult-book by Thomas Pynchon who elaborates
> on the tight (sexual?)  relation between US and Nazi, 'Gravity Rainbow.
> Laurie Anderson wanted to turn this book into an opera)
>
> given the destruction in Syria at this time, or for example in Vietnam
> before, and the industrial farms, and the roles of narratives and images in
> advertising and colonization of non-US realities, and arts,
> i think it is fair to say that i, poor individual, alone, not  charismatic
> leader not wanting to influence anyone into my views, think that AD is a
> mix of good, and evil.
>
> it is good, because they can be helpful, and can be innovative, if your on
> the right side of their story, and even if not, because, at least up to
> this moment,
> Maya can be rented by middle class directors doing research in digital
> painting and 3D. yet, if nothing changes, if Trump gets re-elected in 2020,
> soon the best tools will only be available for those hired by the "Disney"
> farms,
> while poor individuals, non charismatic, will be given a text-to-speech
> processor and a facebook page to post memes.
>
>
>
>
>
> 2018-03-15 10:55 GMT+01:00 Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>:
>
>> How is Nasa evil?
>>
>> AD is US corporate greed, perhaps not at its worst, but bad as they come.
>>
>> Morten
>>
>>
>>
>> > Den 14. marts 2018 klokken 12:47 skrev Nicole Beeckmans-Jacqmain <
>> arc.ann...@gmail.com>:
>> >
>> >
>> > I see AD a bit like the Nasa, it's a mix of good,  and evil
>> >
>> > 2018-03-14 10:13 GMT+01:00 Mirko Jankovic <mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com>:
>> >
>> > > well once they take your money and lock you up in subscription and
>> push
>> > > you to buy software that they think you need, then sure support is
>> there to
>> > > help you.
>> > > but just you try resisting.. ;)
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Morten Bartholdy <
>> x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> I have absolutely!! no love for AD but I will chime in on this. We
>> had
>> > >> stupid issues with getting our new Maya licenses working after
>> upgrading
>> > >> FlexLM (the pile of crap) which was required for running newer Maya
>> > >> versions.
>> > >>
>> > >> I reported the issue and the next day a AD license support person
>> > >> actually called me on the phone and resolved the issue via remote
>> support.
>> > >>
>> > >> The solution was horribly stupid and involved fixing windows
>> files(!) but
>> > >> eventually it worked. A negative sideeffect was that now Softimage
>> takes
>> > >> ages to start up (probably because it takes a long time to get licens
>> > >> granted) Grrrr
>> > >>
>> > >> I was surprised and pleased about the call, and it goes to show that
>> not
>> > >> everything is bad at AD. It doesn't change my dislike of their
>> corporate
>> > >> policies and software offerings though. Maya is still crap.
>> > >>
>> > >> Morten
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> > Den 12. marts 2018 klokken 20:02 skrev Sven Constable <
>> > >> sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > just contacted ADSK support about the issue, that an old network
>> license
>> > >> > (softimage 2011)  was not listed in my account. It was not listed
>> for
>> > >> > several years btw and I didn't care but since I plan to move even
>> the
>> > >> old
>> > >> > licenses to a new server, I contacted them via the online chat.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Problem solved in minutes. I wouldn't have expect this, really.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Sven
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
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