I've spent the last month shading/lighting/rendering in Maya, and its made me sad every day, so you saying that has really made me sad. Why click once when you could dig around clicking ten times.
On 16 March 2018 at 12:55, Morten Bartholdy <[email protected]> wrote: > Crashing is but a small part of the madness contained in Maya. The > original Maya devs must have been seriously retarded. I have to go and > breathe deeply several times a day when doing anything other than > shading/lighting/rendering in Maya, and it is only because of Arnold and > Redshift that this part of the work is bearable in Maya. > > Morten > > > > > Den 15. marts 2018 klokken 17:09 skrev Mirko Jankovic < > [email protected]>: > > > > > > Well said Morten, well said. > > When you pick up controller and move a prop in scene and maya crashes out > > of the blue... simply hard to resist any chance to vent a bit. > > > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 4:19 PM, Morten Bartholdy <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > It is easy to sit happily in Houdini-land and wonder about the ongoing > > > display of dislike for AD. > > > If you were forced to use their shitty tools every day it might be > easier > > > for you to understand why an initial serious dislike of them deepens. > It is > > > simply not something you get easily over when a happy worklife (with > XSI) > > > has become a mediocre to shitty one using Maya. Some of us can't choose > > > freely. > > > > > > Thanks for your input over the years Dan - you have definately > contributed > > > to the quality and good nature of this list. > > > > > > If Side FX finally manages (or chooses) to make Houdini accessible to > less > > > technically inclined artists, we might meet again :) Bye and keep the > good > > > memories. > > > > > > Morten > > > > > > > > > > Den 15. marts 2018 klokken 13:56 skrev Dan Yargici < > [email protected] > > > >: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey guys and gals, > > > > > > > > I stayed subscribed to the list over these last few years since I > moved > > > > over to Houdini (haven't touched Softimage in 2 years now!) as > > > occasionally > > > > a little nugget of useful, non-Softimage specific information would > still > > > > surface through the Autodesk-hating noise (I should add that I also > > > > massively dislike Autodesk, I just don't see any point in expending > as > > > much > > > > energy in stating it as some people). > > > > > > > > I think the time has now come to pull the plug and sign off. > > > > > > > > Not trying to be dramatic, just felt I should acknowledge the last 18 > > > years > > > > that I've been on the list interacting with so many people I respect > so > > > > much who generously took the time to share so much of their knowledge > > > with > > > > a 'bye and thanks for the memories!' post. > > > > > > > > So, bye and thanks for the memories! > > > > > > > > It's been a great pleasure. Good luck with whatever the future > holds! > > > > > > > > DAN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM, Nicole Beeckmans-Jacqmain < > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i don't understand why so many users of softimage have , it seems > from > > > > > your posts here, > > > > > turned to Maya, which, if less easy to understand, is yet > positively > > > > > evolving it's tools, that's why i say AD is good > > > > > > > > > > AD is something like a gentle farmer of the 3d tools. > > > > > > > > > > yet it is a US farmer, which means it is an industry. > > > > > > > > > > if users turn to Maya, it's from being 'encouraged' to do so by > their > > > > > bosses in the 3d industry > > > > > > > > > > now why has the industry faltered during the years 2000 between > XSI and > > > > > Maya, and finally chosen Maya, > > > > > i might be given counter-argument to that, but I think ''Disney'' > (who > > > > > creates the standards, who is the most creative, being a big > industrial > > > > > farmer) > > > > > got threatened by the upheaval from the underground which came > along > > > with > > > > > non-''Disney'' actors, like the music video scenes and > popularisation > > > of > > > > > nodes and mudboxes > > > > > all over the planet, just in a time where it has been decided the > > > Marvel > > > > > DC comic should change the way Hollywood targets the whole planet. > > > > > > > > > > about Nasa, the Nazi scientists from defeated Germany went hired by > > > Nasa > > > > > in the rocket launchers competition against Stalin etc. > > > > > > > > > > (there is a famous underground cult-book by Thomas Pynchon who > > > elaborates > > > > > on the tight (sexual?) relation between US and Nazi, 'Gravity > Rainbow. > > > > > Laurie Anderson wanted to turn this book into an opera) > > > > > > > > > > given the destruction in Syria at this time, or for example in > Vietnam > > > > > before, and the industrial farms, and the roles of narratives and > > > images in > > > > > advertising and colonization of non-US realities, and arts, > > > > > i think it is fair to say that i, poor individual, alone, not > > > charismatic > > > > > leader not wanting to influence anyone into my views, think that > AD is > > > a > > > > > mix of good, and evil. > > > > > > > > > > it is good, because they can be helpful, and can be innovative, if > > > your on > > > > > the right side of their story, and even if not, because, at least > up to > > > > > this moment, > > > > > Maya can be rented by middle class directors doing research in > digital > > > > > painting and 3D. yet, if nothing changes, if Trump gets re-elected > in > > > 2020, > > > > > soon the best tools will only be available for those hired by the > > > "Disney" > > > > > farms, > > > > > while poor individuals, non charismatic, will be given a > text-to-speech > > > > > processor and a facebook page to post memes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2018-03-15 10:55 GMT+01:00 Morten Bartholdy <[email protected]>: > > > > > > > > > >> How is Nasa evil? > > > > >> > > > > >> AD is US corporate greed, perhaps not at its worst, but bad as > they > > > come. > > > > >> > > > > >> Morten > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Den 14. marts 2018 klokken 12:47 skrev Nicole > Beeckmans-Jacqmain < > > > > >> [email protected]>: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > I see AD a bit like the Nasa, it's a mix of good, and evil > > > > >> > > > > > >> > 2018-03-14 10:13 GMT+01:00 Mirko Jankovic < > > > [email protected]>: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > well once they take your money and lock you up in > subscription and > > > > >> push > > > > >> > > you to buy software that they think you need, then sure > support is > > > > >> there to > > > > >> > > help you. > > > > >> > > but just you try resisting.. ;) > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Morten Bartholdy < > > > > >> [email protected]> > > > > >> > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> I have absolutely!! no love for AD but I will chime in on > this. > > > We > > > > >> had > > > > >> > >> stupid issues with getting our new Maya licenses working > after > > > > >> upgrading > > > > >> > >> FlexLM (the pile of crap) which was required for running > newer > > > Maya > > > > >> > >> versions. > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> I reported the issue and the next day a AD license support > person > > > > >> > >> actually called me on the phone and resolved the issue via > remote > > > > >> support. > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> The solution was horribly stupid and involved fixing windows > > > > >> files(!) but > > > > >> > >> eventually it worked. A negative sideeffect was that now > > > Softimage > > > > >> takes > > > > >> > >> ages to start up (probably because it takes a long time to > get > > > licens > > > > >> > >> granted) Grrrr > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> I was surprised and pleased about the call, and it goes to > show > > > that > > > > >> not > > > > >> > >> everything is bad at AD. It doesn't change my dislike of > their > > > > >> corporate > > > > >> > >> policies and software offerings though. Maya is still crap. > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> Morten > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > Den 12. marts 2018 klokken 20:02 skrev Sven Constable < > > > > >> > >> [email protected]>: > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > just contacted ADSK support about the issue, that an old > > > network > > > > >> license > > > > >> > >> > (softimage 2011) was not listed in my account. It was not > > > listed > > > > >> for > > > > >> > >> > several years btw and I didn't care but since I plan to > move > > > even > > > > >> the > > > > >> > >> old > > > > >> > >> > licenses to a new server, I contacted them via the online > chat. > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > Problem solved in minutes. 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