It hasn't bitten me yet.. .touch wood, but in the absence of any sort of
duplicate symmetry tool that works, and rebuilding the entire opposite side
from scratch, I haven't found a better solution, unless its the old Maya
adage of 'just writing a tool for that '

Adam


On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 12:00 AM, Enrique Caballero <
enriquecaball...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've been avoiding negative scaling in Maya as it's not as forgiving as
> Softimage was with that.
>
> I used to mirror rigging components in softimage by scaling (-1,-1,-1) and
> rotation x by 180.
>
> Worked just fine, used that technique in multiple productions (happy feet,
> legend of the gaurdians used that as well)
>
> The only time that hurt me was when we wrote an animation library that
> appended animation in space, and we needed to do a slightly different
> calcultation for the right side of the body.  Still no biggy.
>
> I've been too scared to do it in Maya though.  I actually manually rebuild
> the component in Maya with a different orientation.
>
>
> I don't know if I'm being anal retentive, but when it comes to Maya I tend
> to try to avoid shortcuts with transformations like that, as whenever I try
> it tends to burn me
>
> On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 12:30 AM, Adam Sale <adamfs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Duplicate special with input graph checked on is the key to mirroring
>> more complex hierarchies in Maya.
>> That, and making sure every striking element involved in the rig needs to
>> be parented under a group node that is at the origin.
>> This group node and children is what you duplicate special with input
>> graph selected, and then do the whole scale across X to -1.
>>
>> Everything comes across fine if you go that route, nodes, driven keys,
>> etc. .. Of course then you also have to be aware of Joint orients flipping
>> 180.. and address if necessary.
>>
>> I've kind of gotten used to Maya rigging now, but I really do miss the
>> simplicity of our dearly departed XSI.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 2:46 AM, Anto Matkovic <a...@matkovic.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Copy-paste of selected nodes, makes a copy of everything connected to
>>> selected nodes, including hidden connections to layers, Node Editor
>>> bookmarks, so on. ''Safe way''  could be saving a copy of scene, deleting
>>> everything else (including layers and such), copying back to original
>>> scene. Fortunately Maya could copy entire rig or elements from scene o
>>> scene.
>>> Duplicate in Node Editor makes a duplicate of only selected nodes, but
>>> leaves them unconnected.
>>> As alternative, it worth to try 'duplicate special' (from edit menu)
>>> with some of available options, while this, by default, makes a copy of all
>>> hierarchy bellow.
>>>
>>> IMO scripting for such tasks is usable if someone wants to follow some
>>> exact tutorial or example, or someone is able to visualize complete rig
>>> without even using Maya - but not really for experimenting and expecting
>>> the 3d app to help in this process. Perhaps that addiction to scripting
>>> could explain why almost all Maya rigs are not inventive, not original copy
>>> of actual crap from Pixar or so. Individuality is not allowed in Maya
>>> world....
>>>
>>>
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>>> *Subject:* Re: Set Driven Key Copy/Paste in Maya
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>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> I decided to redo it  with the Node editor.. Thinking it might work a
>>> bit like ICE. However, after completing one leg, I discovered that you
>>> can’t just copy and paste that stuff either as it makes all kinds of new
>>> stuff in the scene. What a mess. I just don’t understand how Maya works at
>>> all.
>>>
>>> I’m not going to make a scripted rigging pipeline, its not my thing. I
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