And now that I have the right Steve, I believe you worked at Omation during
the period of the Spider-man reboots (and Barnyard) so any other nuggets
would be appreciated. :)

On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 at 19:23, Jonathan Moore <jonathan.moo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Steve, do you think that having a familiarity with the way that namespaces
> working inside of Softimage Models (not just Reference Models) provides an
> advantage for those looking to utilise USD in their pipeline. The parallels
> I was alluding to originally was inspired by a couple of old posts by Andy
> Nicolas and Helge Mathee on the Softimage Blog back in 2005.
>
> https://u9432639.ct.sendgrid.net/wf/click?upn=lIXdN6W56FnEjHCwrBXqOq0HQNpV0huvAGw1zu6Xp8eVQuk2cNZiNFjx2k-2FfTNcheFfpiVb5gBjGpm0Nj5Q4I0EuT5m-2BZvwI-2B6Ol-2Fd-2B7GeWuR3lQTaNvLxcuL46Q1XFodXY-2F0uMWZjmB0rE0pWAC8rLmYrUcVi7lVQRRwFC-2B3MSxmJAryUJZcH1JYVORY69EPz9Iyk2MX7d2BdNw4lJin6-2BQQR6msIEq2K2XFKQZUZBbPMsyDc3vk70AtWZ4VRzf1YyYuPE6CL-2BCJ49Yq3kz6SK9PcL9vnYJXn30p07Hw9JBXCxOtSoyueEM-2BDwopbH7uDmaW-2FB34O5953zhKkB6wOU7sESWz-2BvErVPbT2z6rcUV4xvOVijT8b14AuEiMAyR4UywhtzznSkE15VYVKyf6A-3D-3D_a6oQc7tnfcb0GKvoO27fPkrQ0ATQyF1SDBXJOg7-2FbuSMRONldBFwY4MROigrI5rOkBW9yeeKEza6jTycUIDplkNjAtYGMOSrwUOAZwgOtWn-2BoJzol1jBn7g-2BZlNA84euGggQ4-2F0CM4HKQUHvnuMPtPXp5HWoStP2W0IirNIERvUkAbYeXEYbYTHfUZ0LEseVes4JinNjCWB5Ode7cNV7Ithoxmb8yjx8aY3AsldMJs4-3D
>  
>
> https://u9432639.ct.sendgrid.net/wf/click?upn=lIXdN6W56FnEjHCwrBXqOq0HQNpV0huvAGw1zu6Xp8eVQuk2cNZiNFjx2k-2FfTNcheFfpiVb5gBjGpm0Nj5Q4I0EuT5m-2BZvwI-2B6Ol-2Fd-2B7GeV9k27fsOuEMZ4jxj8b8SQEpGhN-2B27GEZeIsKl0iEZUDgzVzGZS-2B3xt-2BeP75uuofvqu99rw0VAosnfT-2BEDsAQ2S26RYOmzt70s8hh4ZEb-2BkaaoGVaHfzDVTKhIdyVSEQZgm-2BcXSsMg8t6u1qe3il1Xdaq8AuZe0p41PpIxxrassy0ruw-2Bodpr8rBrv2NWTEn8LLBVJs25y2Bx0ukFXbWm8xzZzx2-2FCtdiZpWaV8owzXKeCnAIVCJb0e-2B7BlpGNmnifOyHpKWAXEvTgIieKjVdR1HOB-2FFTBYQbyJga4N9dT4yQ-3D-3D_a6oQc7tnfcb0GKvoO27fPkrQ0ATQyF1SDBXJOg7-2FbuSMRONldBFwY4MROigrI5rOkBW9yeeKEza6jTycUIDpll-2BALHnYpnxF-2ByuF1x68FYNZt2DWkfZkpksPclWv870v2Otj7fDjsIxEL2Be4R9JMLprpMz1QkoEwb6ln9FBoQo8QGi25O1kuHUK9AeI5-2Bj-2F8aLddxK8mJ7pZHJeXI-2BLsYSGU0aojFZiCM6smaMp3zM-3D
>  
>
> The prescience on show from the pair as to the potential of an XML based
> pipeline is impressive, and has many parallels to the USD benefits we see
> realised today (particularly in Helge's post, Andy's provides to technical
> insight without getting into the vision too much). Obviously we're talking
> 2005 here but it feels to me that USD has in part grown from the more
> sophisticated pipelines of the 00's (Helge references the pipeline used on
> the first two Spiderman reboots of the 00's).
>
> Considering that Animal Logic were pretty much a Softimage shop, well from
> 2003 onward (with Houdini for FX) pre Soft's EOL, it's seems more than
> coincidence that they were responsible for the first robust open source USD
> implementation.
>
> Maybe I'm making links were none exist, but I can see a big advantage in
> recruiting technical artists with a Soft background as USD and MaterialX
> gain traction.
>
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 at 16:47, Jonathan Moore <jonathan.moo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> My bad, that's exactly who I was thinking of. 🤦
>>
>> On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 at 16:42, Steven Caron <car...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am not part of the Arnold team... I work at Quixel now. Maybe you're
>>> thinking of magnificent Stephen Blair?
>>>
>>> *written with my thumbs
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 8:34 AM Jonathan Moore <jonathan.moo...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Steve, have you had any exposure to the Maya plugin version of Animal
>>>> Logic's USD environment? I understand you're part of the Arnold team these
>>>> days, but I wondered if you've been exposed to anything you can talk about?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 at 16:25, Steven Caron <car...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> USD has an API, can be edited with python, and a human readable format
>>>>> if desired. All huge benefits over 'ref models'
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *written with my thumbs
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 4:25 AM Jonathan Moore <
>>>>> jonathan.moo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> At a high level USD and the way that referencing was handled in
>>>>>> Softimage through 'Models' has many parallels. I'm interested in any
>>>>>> thoughts and opinions some of you may have having utilised both USD and
>>>>>> Softimage 'Referenced Models'. Even if you haven't used USD in production
>>>>>> yet I'm interested in any thoughts you may have regarding its possible
>>>>>> benefits and pitfalls.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is an open question so I won't colour it with my opinions but
>>>>>> any thoughts you might have will be most appreciated as I'm providing 
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> background info for a client.
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