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Keep a log of everything, you may be able to write an awesome account of the journey. ;-) Jb > On 2 Sep 2019, at 15:19, Jonathan Moore <jonathan.moo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks for the recommendation Jordi. > > As to 100% authority, that's in place as most of the accounts within the > network are international and the name of the game is seamless market > localisation, minimising the repeated recreation of the same campaign assets > and recognition of the strengths of particular resources within the network > so that work is always briefed to the most apt and capable teams. However > this is all fine and dandy in theory, the hardest barriers to overcome in > international advertising networks is the silo's and fiefdoms (I'm sure > that's the same in any international creative business). There's a lot of > politics to negotiate, never mind the specifics of the brief! ;) > > On Sun, 1 Sep 2019 at 18:12, Pierre Schiller <activemotionpictu...@gmail.com > <mailto:activemotionpictu...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Thank you for the advise on that book JB. > > I totally agree with Jonathan. People is afraid of technical challenges. > Most of the time they come from an already wrecked technical background. > Unlike us Softimagers, where linear creativity development > always allowed us to implement things in the middle of production anywhere > and not fail. You have to give them a space on that subject... they > don´t know (with SI EOL, they WILL NEVER know) how friendly and easy it to > work with linking assets a' la dot xsi or delta references for LODs. > Hail .USD? :) > > www.3dcinetv.com > 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> > On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 11:10 AM Jordi Bares <jordiba...@gmail.com > <mailto:jordiba...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> On 31 Aug 2019, at 09:51, Jonathan Moore <jonathan.moo...@gmail.com >> <mailto:jonathan.moo...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> I'm currently working with a large advertising network, attempting to get >> them up to speed with the importance of USD. And this has been a far bigger >> challenge than I'd at first anticipated. The most common response I've had >> from technical heads would approximate to 'it's just XML'. Obviously, the >> production capabilities of internal ad agency production departments lacks >> the sophistication of specialist production shops but digital/interactive >> production has historically been an in house capability of ad agencies >> (that's my background) and VR/AR/real-time has meant that the lines are >> becoming blurred between moving image production shops and >> digital/interactive production shops (many of which are now owned by the big >> advertising networks). > > If there is one thing I have learned is that change is very hard to > implement, even in extreme cases where there are very few arguments against > seems to me human nature is such that we fear change rather than embrace the > opportunities so I totally understand. > > Try to read this particular book that illustrates the transformation of a > company with the right guy, with the right authority and power starts > promoting change. Very educational. > > "The Phoenix Project” by Gene Kim > https://u9432639.ct.sendgrid.net/wf/click?upn=lIXdN6W56FnEjHCwrBXqOrBu7UgBbB4G-2B2WmSbTyuGfxPpNH6Z-2FohxL0d6qtnEv11P6E-2Ft0kR3wwqdm9T-2BoOEScqcaeAF36us1jqM6MrysYRF0TIm5ausLAJ9Ahs78wX_a6oQc7tnfcb0GKvoO27fPkrQ0ATQyF1SDBXJOg7-2FbuQhXVPj4Xyb2uoOHVTH6-2Bbp3ZJKp4eYceVvbF51DBg3isNHzUjaMSz2DrB66Tr0uMw49nLkvmJQcteN10MP1DrwuknWLOhR0eTnccQkjW98NV93-2FghUhZvReEnqTLbLzFGiyY7JYe5V-2F6um5IttTzaUAUGKWuT60q6NeJlIHHsj-2B7LIPA1llfNJJ5ufYricMdY-3D > > <https://u9432639.ct.sendgrid.net/wf/click?upn=lIXdN6W56FnEjHCwrBXqOmMAKB8JGacZcowsK4IlqY8aQGPpnujEXNbmyey-2FEv7HGtoL-2BI-2FyFXaqM003GW6wYi36VK5RlUUzB5WqXMoPTwNPainGGlvtCQf4gB0kvKV-2BemHEdbkZyAlHTPmi-2FqcIwxgp4zIjZ4L4pSRLZZd94i6P1BAFeL8KpAmmwcApBtn1d8r2DQxpzb6mk-2Fw-2BTPx1H61sN5QQNed0pEkPoRzlNw3kFia69Cd7DDh13py9gA4Wng-2FpQAhUBZCjQnmKcYLWv72j6VqQ59kRZeKJAwv3rgNOzURSQIMOjQ8EYkcUmU4FphWgTpaRCBTMG3LDf-2F6TDwvV9qZ-2BG9q7ssiovuTNQk-2BqbyKbjgnpLMPWjrNK4b9mxFN8XtaDqrWBM4LXFVoweFVaopwXPVKVWdoLr2PAmnX9oBQrHSnSjsUq0mCxukKS-2Bxqz5SMcaa0VQcYxouA-2Fd8G6OIYWjjMUieKFlw-2FRmkrnjIM3R-2BgTw0ZSc0F6wwqWD3qtIG357wzbjAsqE3jZnHD7BUw97GPPsb6V85TWOhLEIkTAeOs93xx4xFBMeANSXej6p1Ts75LJwQx6jwFAJN7XBPzXfU-2FknBpIwcazZM67MrIUUb0AoS6Uadu5LYw0GQnUYSKL-2BaUbrDiiXts43z2sTl9Iw4SuXK5-2Fm-2BA5ebrnGeSWol8hnbc953j3V00eWyOwZkNO23RzXDR-2Fyzk4l7eHSYsGdaRNoywp5LdYnvoY8cBeATPzNUFLykEX5MwhgJYxnLjL0J-2BZgn-2FBGTuRrNYC3EUH8vnmqRKPlfucozwSpdWkTrBFEVq14UFxYZt3O3caD3rb-2FgSuee-2B35UvDqRRmPuBo1lg4CgqR-2Bx4tAu7mlmw7437vYKO0ozWChuhBmro7nUlHz-2Ba9jXcE2eSY6NgRszrriyM1x-2B3MAWHlTLYPga9fMnV3Hywhk9ZjVNSf-2BaEgFTywhpQSHaoA-2B3UjrD5xlGYZVkUuUnTARZkbZ2-2BgOF-2FJ16lwXypM6Z4Tkxitc2oTtX-2FOVlqg7PL4iNuiUeqoFPQHZz-2Ff5PKg2mZid5bWquP8ZodOBoM7fi7lD-2BizGfJ-2BNqwy9Jc4SKUZ163bulmTraZeKcFXpk6CqlOxhA3k-2BQzKLnK0LJxFMo7LVvH7f3ZKX7EBqt8IwiKKI-2B3Lmgki49ZkSeQIxXITwHpjK7IJz9aKdlvuDVnY2eP-2BXwp2y8PbS7jjgmFWv6658SgR4ZGnd3M4xXBDtkrEuUMhu98jSuSIUrWud9O66QKhXUU-2FV-2BOAJtMFPueMB-2F0RTh121hUeXTLRo5yhvlh0a9Vm09WeBjdwAaE9YJdc4KhcLQ-2FBBl5yOoqXgPDgmWsCujD7MiKXmVkJijCqjY-2Bh97TADJVveIvtSZz3Q4O6zrK1XFYOqLre9ABQ5fa1owJM0um-2FNgDQEjROa3y-2BztXh1vOrDktLwpKAoYqua3jfx7MfgwkYAhxc-2Bs6Nu34K929m-2F53wOXXoh7E0OpsNEJbHhA8QFXoDiJYOAKW0nrz3dPlAs9-2Ft-2B96KvR9U39Z48KwApCe5XdwaGmfgtNtydvJqPnCxO69sEqy9k6h9dUB7-2Bj3m9eVJEuig3vyorciW3OtX7oJXDwKq-2BOrzu-2BHk9m7WeJPHS25QoQt8AJDMg4TR5SfWiRLOyfy9m8TyISj7EYNeDwXoJdjhOVk4NAJcw5DFxvzskFEO05faPH2quomgMuiJZBpZrrWO3fLh0um7d9fLOMGyzG5rkbUmgpuOYx6U1pteR0lwhJlvs-2B4h-2BwkmaFxJ0UH4BV06gB-2FPw4cpQPC-2BZ5QS4fRLlJqiz6I9gkQ7-2BHGkFomaz76rVk-2FW8eHnOjA4nV8EKem9zIn4ZjPCUP6HPTrTwc6GnSD4zE2UN4QYBSJDFV8uEaFhPSKsuTkVmWe2D0-2BGmJCyhC1-2BrG7vLbFEejTZA1seDAouPV-2BW0lE-2BrefRWzWtDCPpWUMmOuHk4DZRLedI5qM8II-2BecIhv0615RSxVVF11oWn55UYB3aEmswZIelDmls3DouZic1ge4-2BalFZTuXYIUxGp4wkmXNYILyPufGwIAOHZuKnJkS8ft4-2FsxWamv8KN6OpKqMiwRIgkS7nxZONbNUQpkwBq92Z55D5I-2FjM86E98RF45583AruWIk4J-2BuZZRi81gmThvy2gtHjJPJuZX4j9qZe-2BrxXJZkpQZn0QFmtJxtmcrdW-2FiQrffl0PLS-2Fw9oQg-2F2NyoFA0bZUlESG1tNvARY61tSUuNuP00kcHpbMAgSrWapxVq-2FX0Ab9zfo9e4p0pdNeJ5VHmHJcCiPA-2FZSlpCMxgNAw5L38H3O1-2BSIiMndQQCixvU-2FVWdBAMfnPI-2F2hWv2-2B8v-2FrXvXc8JkD09YSkkqxrSHAD2jx0sWhRhJfK6fMe-2B4-2BG81CFo4dzSRyHdCYc2FkFrfJR5IVIFQED6AVsT7dcmleMj3g9AsbBkieoN3lJ4qEPDsLQq9RwlaYjB5MPRaZOqoeVdCYylE7TouOIf1-2BZLfJGuioVXC3PH54BN1mi426cf3o3xV52W04N77DDiovULQRzgfKQBDjGH7ZbO-2FdQA3njI44VvuUbL7696W2V-2FK7HkXtE9eJiSiyBP10W2cSmTo2a0U8faVQJ4oJeJuBcOZkSmU9Wnd5hegzqT0-2BVWNIfbCW0P-2FzOHzx2nfMvSpfX8PgybcdfHmnWOLpWutnYSEQQpuKtvYzM8t31lpEOF9Bd12-2FWSzVnY4m0ecohqweoyMbUDgCjy4lcmoPaPy6EouaaQ5pRE50915Gq5IJMMUvZkQR4BYlEcdkNtw-2F6vSi0fEKIUIPKE1ysqXZieARFjucczhTXHLIkZO4jpVTApBAaVu80W2xsmv-2FAgSUgIQomhZg3Nk1nKBa6ryji4ZeJYAFknbEv1N061a90q9SxOEMekmD2RtMKYrwemPBBRXyARg6-2B4rMGsXrndpixHb5wc2mfYCMJzWLvysLnepSs5x8cp6e1GGWb7g-2FpM-2FrpGDDG3o8d3W92UxVRey58xP9WqozwpJn6cgPEBnEkJOSDm8zg-2FNdwomuFTzvkmDov96sCeVKghDJK1kVnc9uCNKBtGk2CK-2B7CtviB5QfOsGhbNXxuFPbqtGClDNyWIm4D-2FsFfgf1T71o-2B8JV8TsH-2BOBAafH3tDwZOUgdA-3D-3D_a6oQc7tnfcb0GKvoO27fPkrQ0ATQyF1SDBXJOg7-2FbuQhXVPj4Xyb2uoOHVTH6-2Bbp3ZJKp4eYceVvbF51DBg3il2mvmhbn9g-2BXLggtGPlwyLgPZ-2BcyJEzinda0J-2FHHylZ1a1-2Fk2Iih0YyqGgUkIfz-2BvqqwR9wA53yLDA7G4Pts-2F8NYRiEMQZRj3-2FH98CSi5g3JK5KsTeFeek0hOcb8oTm28f5eMMFoyM3KvL4YpfQtsk-3D> > > My only suggestion is, make sure you have 100% authority otherwise you will > not make it, people get scared easily and USD is a major change. > > jb > > > >> I'm definitely something of an interloper on this list, so apologies for the >> occasional naivety my questions. :) >> >> On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 23:49, Matt Lind <speye...@hotmail.com >> <mailto:speye...@hotmail.com>> wrote: >> Models are not really comparable to USD. Models are more similar to >> Houdini's concept of Digital Asset than a scene. >> >> The purpose of a model was to be a container for an asset so it could be >> more easily included in large scenes and independently manipulated with >> regards to versioning and level of detail control. The main message of >> ‘Sumatra’ and DS was that artists were to be removed from the burden of low >> level manipulation, such as setting key frames, and able to focus more on >> higher levels of control such as choreography via animation mixing. >> >> XSI Models are derived from the “hierarchy” (.hrc) from predecessor >> Softimage|3D. One could argue the Model is a superset of the .hrc as the >> main difference is the addition of the animation mixer (independent >> timeline). The .hrc had level of detail control and other mechanisms, but >> they were rarely used due to lack of tools to do it in a practical manner by >> the end user. The Softimage|3D implementation required a lot of digging >> through menus and strong self-discipline in organization of files. For some >> operations, one had to jump out to the command line and use DbTools – a >> proprietary environment for running shell scripts developed by Softimage. >> >> Softimage|3D had an ASCII text scene file format which related multiple >> files, this was closer to the concept of USD. The main file was the Scene >> Description (.dsc) which contained all the high level information of what >> elements were in the scene and how they were related. This included >> relations such as parent/child, master/slave relation of constraints, light >> and model associations, groupings, custom effects and their parameter >> settings, asset LOD, and the list goes on. It even includes position of >> nodes as represented in the schematic view, The Scene Description was >> accompanied by the Scene Setup file (.sts) which contained description of >> the user's environment such as how the viewports were arranged, current >> settings, render parameters, etc. All the other files pointed by the Scene >> Description and Scene Setup were binary files and contained the actual >> content (cameras, lights, models (hierarchies), materials, animation, …). >> This meant a scene was a conglomerate of many files – handy for versioning >> and substitutions, but took forever to load/save when the database started >> to fill up. A single scene could consist of thousands of files, and each >> file would have to be checked individually for version collision, and sync >> with the other assets in the database. If scene save operation was >> interrupted (e.g. crash), you had many orphaned files floating around in >> your database creating all sorts of havoc. Since the default number of >> versions kept was 4, and all hard drives of the day were disc drives with >> small caches and slow spin rates and 10 Mbps ethernet (if lucky), it took >> forever to get work done. That was a strong motivation behind XSI using a >> single file for it's scene file format, and the .scntoc to mimic (to a much >> lesser degree) the Scene Description. Ironically, Alias|Wavefront did the >> exact opposite as Power Animator used a single file scene format, but >> migrated to the Softimage|3D style with Maya. >> >> USD is more robust in that it's a rule based language to do the work of >> assembly and has some amount of intelligence to handle collisions and other >> problems. XSI models had limited ability to do that in the delta, but it was >> self contained. XSI Scenes had some back door exceptions to the rule to >> accommodate models in certain situations, but otherwise were passive and not >> available to the user to manipulate. The Softimage|3D scene description >> language was more primitive than USD in that it was more like a passive list >> of commands to execute than a language with decision making intelligence. >> Although error checking existed, it was largely assumed the contents of the >> file were ordered and compliant. If a model was listed twice, for example, >> the parser would not catch it and made every effort to import the model and >> establish all the relations. It would be left to the other operations >> downstream to catch the problem and report it. >> >> USD isn't rocket science, but it serves a very important role that's been >> long needed. >> >> Matt >> >> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 10:13:05 +0100 From: Jordi Bares >> <jordiba...@gmail.com <mailto:jordiba...@gmail.com>> Subject: Re: Thoughts >> on USD in comparison to Softimage ‘Referenced Models’ To: "Official >> Softimage Users Mailing List. >> >> I guess the concepts are rooted in our reality and therefore it is only >> natural the approaches are not that dissimilar, but it is fun to realise >> Softimage Models were so advanced at the time as to be compared and all to >> USD. >> >> IMHO USD is a major leap forward and models and references are a minor >> attribute as the real meat is the whole versioning in combination with >> layering which somehow makes me thing of XML document conversions for the >> web and data mining but I digress.. >> >> USD is a framework and the scope is enormous, to the point that you don?t >> need Alembic if you don?t want to, and chances are materialX becomes >> irrelevant as well. I see the Houdini implementation presented at Siggraph >> and it is in my little knowledge a true disruptor to the point that if it >> will leverage scale to the masses, something we don?t have yet so I expect >> companies to start exploring it and moving towards it real fast. >> >> Furthermore, Apple is amongst many big companies investing tons of money >> into it as they have decided it to be their standard in the iOS and OSX >> content system, for all VR expect to see a lot of USDZ (the compressed >> version) and as such, I feel the industry money being pouring into USD will >> become very obvious very soon. >> >> Then you add Hydra to the mix and the whole concept of a render engine >> becomes quite more subtle as we will see the real differences between them >> in how they implement algorithms? right now there are many other important >> tasks the render engine does that via Hydra it won?t (think the deep >> integration of Mental Ray with Softimage but in a generalised way?) Meaning, >> we are going to see speed increases on the pure raytracing more than texture >> management so I hope that allows these engines to focus on what is important >> and for us artists to move to the engine because we need those features. >> >> IMHO this is a whole new world bigger than reference model, this is proper >> asset management and rendering pipeline all in one. >> >> My 2 cents jb >> >> ------ Softimage Mailing List. 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