Hi Brian, I think this is all relative. I discussed internally about software download. Their answer to me is "BIG NO". Reason is SP must run QA tests for every possible OS/patches combination. Worst is we need to redo this again when a new patch/upgrade is released. This is far costly than you can imagine (way more than the $80 new CPE). In the end, I would vote for the dongle based over host based anytime.
Is dongle more viable option than new CPE? I think this is the real debate. Cheers, Yiu On 10/7/10 6:47 PM, "Brian E Carpenter" <brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ole, > >> I really liked the dongle idea by the way. > > I'm not convinced. If people are willing to buy such a thing, > and if you are correct about $80 IPv6-enabled CPEs, I think the > latter will win. > > So the real question for me is whether a $0 dollar download will beat > an $80 purchase. Predicting customer bahaviour is hard. > > IMHO, we can put both on the market and see what happens. > > Regards > Brian > > On 2010-10-08 08:28, Ole Troan wrote: >> Remi, >> >> [...] >> >>> ISPs that aren't concerned with what their customer would like to have will >>> eventually face competition. >> >> we are in complete agreement of the end goal. it is just how we get there... >> >>> A key point is that supporting 6a44 is very inexpensive compared to other >>> supports they have to envisage. >>> >>> Yet, as Yiu says, this still depends on which hosts will support 6a44. >>> My personal hope is that we will soon see trials, including with mobile >>> phones. >> >> issues I have with host tunneling: >> - how to communicate with native IPv6 nodes on the same network? >> - how to communicate to another 6a44 host on a different link in the same >> home? >> - do you need non-congruent topology multi-homing policy? >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-troan-multihoming-without-nat66-01 >> how do you distribute that policy when you don't have a on-link router? >> - a general unease that now every host is supposed to have a "VPN" >> connection? >> how do I configure my own firewall and other network border policy? >> >> how much would a new CPE cost the customer? 80USD? that's only 5 pints of >> beer (if bought in Norway.) >> I really liked the dongle idea by the way. perhaps with a L2TP LAC. >> >> cheers, >> Ole _______________________________________________ Softwires mailing list Softwires@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires