This behavior should most likely be specified in the cpe-router-bis draft.  It 
may interact with other Initialization behaviors, as well.

- Ralph



On Mar 1, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Daniel Roesen <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 09:08:51PM +0000, Lee, Yiu wrote:
>> [YL] I agree with you this have to be specified. I can think of either the
>> cpe-router-bis draft or the draft-dslite-deployment should specify the
>> exact behavior. Do you agree that the draft-dslite-deployment is a good
>> place to define this behavior?
> 
> Not really. Operators need a normative specification to point CPE router
> vendors at. draft-dslite-deployment aims to be "Informational" and
> "discusses" things. It doesn't mandate specific behaviour. The strongest
> guidance I read in the document is that B4 SHOULD implement the DHCP
> option.
> 
> It's already hard to push vendors to implement things in moving drafts,
> but it will be even harder to ask them to implement what they read into
> informational documents. :-)
> 
> On a side note, it would be reallyreally good if we would get the DHCP
> option draft to RFC as quick as possible in order to have vendors
> actually implement the proper final IANA assigned DHCP option -
> currently it's all custom handwaving, making interop testing hard at
> best.
> 
>> With the open-source code I use for test, I have to manually configure the
>> CPE to the dslite mode, but this is less than ideal.
> 
> Indeed. Current implementation we test with has a GUI switch:
> 
> (*) native IPv4 (DHCPv4)
> ( ) DS-Lite
> 
> No "auto" heuristics, and DHCPv4 being default with no automatic DS-Lite
> "fallback". In fact, any customer with a DS-Lite-only provisioned
> connection would have to change that option in order to come online
> proper if it would remain like that.
> 
> Next week we'll get the next DS-Lite pre-production test implementation
> of another major CPE router vendor on the test bench - I'm eager to see
> how DS-Lite "optionality" is done there. They are expecting us to tell
> them how it's done "right" from an operational point of view - but
> that shouldn't be ISP-specific, but well reviewed guidance from
> some normative spec (sorry, I'm repeating myself I guess).
> 
>> I remember I previously discussed this with the cpe-router-bis's
>> authors. I will have to dig up the old mails to find out what
>> conclusion we reached.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Best regards,
> Daniel
> 
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