Hi Ole,

But there is no NAT hole punching is involved, why use l2tp instead of
stateless IPv4-in-IPv6?

/Yiu

On 3/31/11 3:29 AM, "Ole Troan" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Yiu,
>
>>> reading drafts during the plenary post working group session.
>>> 
>>> 1) what does this solution offer that isn't in RFC5571? different
>>> encapsulation?
>> 
>> Similar but there is a major difference. RFC5571 is 6over4 using l2tpv2
>>to
>> punch through the NAT. This doesn't need this requirement, so l2tpv2
>>isn't
>> needed. 
>
>RFC5571 specifies both IPv4 over IPv6 and IPv6 over IPv4.
>so the difference with this draft is that you rather want RFC2473
>encapsulation rather than PPP/UDP?
>
>the main argument for choosing L2TP in the first place, was that all the
>infrastructure was available, including LNSes, LAC implementations and
>backend AAA infrastructure.
>
>doesn't this argument still hold for the hub and spoke case?
>
>the main short-coming of the RFC5571 as I see it is the lack of
>provisioning... if we fixed that would 5571 be more palatable as a
>solution?
>
>>> 2) host initiated. does this propose to support hosts behind a CPE? how
>>> would they then be
>>>  provisioned?
>> 
>> The idea is the CPE will be the dhcp relay agent which will relay the
>>dhcp
>> requests from the hosts behind the CPE to the dhcp server. That said,
>> there are details we need to sort out such as the CPE must be also
>> provisioned an ipv4 address from the same subnet to support
>>hair-pinning.
>> Also the servers behind the CPE are normal servers, we need to detail
>> how/when to create the binding in the NAT table so that it won't require
>> the servers to send keepalive to the TC.
>
>the Basic IPv6 CE draft (to be RFC6204) only suggest to pass across some
>well known options from the WAN side DHCP client to the LAN side DHCP
>server. perhaps you would suggest new text to the Advanced CE draft
>suggesting that all unknown stateless DHCP option should be passed across?
>
>cheers,
>Ole
>
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