Ok. I agree with your definition. How about I rephrase it that dslite and
4over6 don't require control channel. RFC5571 requires control channel.
Can we agree that control channel requires extra overhead?

Cheers,
/Yiu

On 3/31/11 4:37 AM, "Ole Troan" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Yiu,
>
>> The way to set up the tunnel is similar to ds-lite. The CPE will learn
>>the
>> TC's v6 address, then encap v4 packets into v6 to the TC. To create the
>> v4-v6 mapping in the TC's routing table. This could be done by the TC to
>> look at the dhcp message or by keepalive packets from the cpe. We
>>haven't
>> decided which way is preferred. But the tunnel itself is stateless.
>
>since we have tended to classify mechanisms into 'stateless' and
>'stateful'. I think we need a common understanding of what mean by these
>terms.
>
>simply stated, if the mechanism scales by the number of
>subscribers/tunnels then it is stateful. if it scales by the amount of
>packets/traffic then it is stateless.
>
>if you agree with that definition I would think 4over6 is stateful, since
>it suggests to integrate the tunnel state into the RIB. i.e. you allocate
>a piece of memory per subscriber and you have to snoop on DHCP messages
>to refresh this state.
>
>cheers,
>Ole

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