I'm sorry, but I think the first question is wrong if we don't have one
more question at the end.

My understanding is that it is up to the WG to decide if, in case one
solution is accepted for standards track, the other one need to be
withdraw from the WG instead of going to experimental or informational. I
don't think this decision can be taken by the chairs or ADs, and it must
be done now, otherwise it may be appealed later, so we will have extra
work, a new consensus poll, etc.

Another point. In IETF we act as individuals, so why should we indicate
our affiliation ?

The right question set must be:

Question 1: Do you agree that the wg should put EITHER 4rd-U OR MAP (as a
whole) on the standard track,
the other being published as experimental, informational or abandon by the
WG.
Answering YES to this question means you agree we cannot publish both as
standard track.
Answering NO to this question means you want to see both advance on the
standard track.

Your full name, your affiliation, your choice: YES or NO



Questions 2: Which one do you want to see placed on the Standards Track:
4rd-U or MAP?


Your full name, your choice: 4rd-U or MAP

Question 3: The remaining solution (the one NOT accepted by the consensus
of the WG) should be published as experimental, informational, or abandon
by the WG (so the authors can take other paths if they believe so).


Your full name, your choice: experimental, informational or abandon.




Regards,
Jordi






-----Mensaje original-----
De: Jun Xu <[email protected]>
Responder a: <[email protected]>
Fecha: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 17:14:08 +0800
Para: "[email protected] WG" <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]>, Softwire Chairs <[email protected]>
Asunto: Re: [Softwires] Mailing list question to gauge consensus on 4rd-U
vs MAP

>Hi, 
>
>On Apr 5, 2012, at 5:14 AM, Alain Durand wrote:
>
>> Dear Softwire wg members:
>> 
>> At the Paris IETF Softwire meeting, we had presentations on MAP (taken
>>as a whole)  and
>> 4rd-U. We got very strong feedback that we needed to select one
>> solution to cover that full stateless case, not two, and that we should
>>make this
>> decision relatively quickly.
>> 
>> During Paris meeting, we asked the following additional question:
>> Do you prefer MAP or 4rd-U?
>> We got about 1/3 support for 4rd-U and 2/3 for MAP.
>> 
>> The real gauge of consensus is the mailing list, so we would like
>> to ask the same questions to the list.
>> 
>> =====================================================================
>> Question 1: Do you agree that the wg should put EITHER 4rd-U OR MAP (as
>>a whole) on the standard track,
>> the other being published as experimental or informational.
>> Answering YES to this question means you agree we cannot publish both
>>as standard track.
>> Answering NO to this question means you want to see both advance on the
>>standard track.
>> 
>> 
>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>---
>> Your full name, your affiliation, your choice: YES or NO
>> 
>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>---
>Jun Xu, Cisco, Choice: YES
>> 
>> 
>> =====================================================================
>> 
>> Questions 2: Which one do you want to see placed on the Standards Track:
>> 4rd-U or MAP?
>> 
>> 
>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>-----
>> Your full name, your affiliation, your choice: 4rd-U or MAP
>> 
>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>-----
>Jun Xu, Cisco, Choice: MAP
>> 
>> =====================================================================
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Please fill out the following form and reply to the list
>> by Wednesday 4/10 5pm EDT.
>> 
>> Note: Use this thread ONLY for expressing your support to
>> one OR the other, and redirect any discussions to other threads.
>> That would help up gauge consensus.
>> 
>> Alain & Yong.
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>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires
>
>Jun Xu 
>
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