On 4/6/12 3:42 AM, Rémi Després wrote:
Hi, Brian,
First, welcome as new Internet-area AD. Also, thanks for the
reference and the quote.
Thanks.
Note however that, in this particular instance, this quote will not
be of any help because it concerns "issues which have not been
discussed on the mailing list".
On the contrary, RFC 2418 says: "There are two different cases where
a working group may be trying to understand the level of consensus
via a mailing list ... - In the case where a consensus which HAS BEEN
REACHED during a face-to-face meeting is being verified on a mailing
list ... - The other case is where the discussion has been held
ENTIRELY over the mailing list" (upper cases added).
Facts are that: - No consensus has been reached during the
face-to-face meeting. - There has been extensive discussion on the
mailing list. - The only action that has been announced in absence of
consensus was publication of all specifications as experimental.
Would you agree that the outcome of the WG session in Paris is that
there was not a clear consensus to choose either one of the options? I
have not seen anyone dispute that there was not a clear consensus to
choose one option over the other. Hence, everyone agrees there was not
a consensus in the face-to-face meeting. In that situation, does it
make sense to ask a broader audience (the entire mailing list) the same
set of questions?
There is therefore no justification I know to further delay
publication of ALL specifications as WG drafts, on experimental
track. - As I already said to the chairs, I am ready to do it as soon
as authorized. - I understand that MAP-E+T drafts will also be
treated the same, and that's obviously fair.
As already said too said, if procedures continue to be distorted, I
will have no other choice than referring to RFC 2026 section 6.5.1,
and signal, on behalf of co-authors of the 4rd-U proposal, "a
difficulty with Working Group process", with an "appeal to the IESG
as a whole".
That is your prerogative.
Regards,
Brian
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