2013-02-14  12:12, Ole Troan <[email protected]>:

> Med,
> 
>> To start with, there was no consensus to include MAP1:1 in the MAP spec. 
>> Unless I'm mistaken, objection to include that mode in the base MAP spec was 
>> raised several times in the mailing list. It was mainly raised by authors of 
>> Lw4o6 but they are also contributors to softwire.
>> 
>> As an editor of this document, with all due respect, you should ask the 
>> opinion of the WG before recording the consensus into the document. The WG 
>> owns this document and it can decide what to put on it.
>> 
>> I'm personally in favour of removing MAP1:1 section from this document as 
>> this mode can not be packaged as stateless. But, this is only my opinion. 
> 
> you didn't answer my question.

> 1:1 mode has always been part of MAP.

Untrue:

- Initially, the MAP draft was limited to stateless, WITHOUT any reference to 
1:1 (October 2011 to January 2012, ref 
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mdt-softwire-mapping-address-and-port-00 to 
-03)

- It is only when the MAP draft had to be re-issued a WG document that, without 
previous discussion in the WG, applicability to 1:1 was added by its editor(s) 
(June 2012).

- When MAP became restricted to MAP-E, as per WG decision, applicability to 1:1 
has been kept despite the lack of WG consensus (September 2012).


> are we arguing over whether we should explicitly mention that fact in the MAP 
> draft.
> or are we arguing over making it technically impossible to do MAP 1:1 mode?

Suggested way to solve the problem: 
- Delete section 7.4  (whose ONLY purpose is to introduce 1:1 applicability).
- In Appendix A, delete examples 4 and 5 (ONLY devoted to 1:1 mappings).    

RD


> 
> cheers,
> Ole
> 
>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>> De : Ole Troan [mailto:[email protected]] 
>>> Envoyé : jeudi 14 février 2013 11:14
>>> À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/OLN
>>> Cc : [email protected]; [email protected]
>>> Objet : Re: [softwire] #25: Maintain or remove MAP1:1 Mode?
>>> 
>>>> #25: Maintain or remove MAP1:1 Mode?
>>> 
>>> OK, so here is a task for whomever thinks MAP 1:1 mode should 
>>> be removed.
>>> 
>>> - what does "remove MAP 1:1 mode mean"?
>>> - please suggest text changes to the mechanism that removes 1:1 mode.
>>> 
>>> given that my opinion is that 1:1 mode is an unremovable part 
>>> of MAP, the question just doesn't make sense to me.
>>> 
>>> I don't want this issue to be an excuse to block a last call, 
>>> can we quickly resolve this, and can we agree to drop it if 
>>> there are no significant contributions within the next week?
>>> 
>>> cheers,
>>> Ole
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The WG discussed several times this point (refer to the mailing list
>>>> archives).
>>>> 
>>>> MAP1:1 mode is a particular mode which may re-use some of 
>>> the provisioning
>>>> methods defined for MAP.
>>>> 
>>>> MAP1:1 vs. Lw4o6:
>>>> * MAP1:1 is not fully stateless.
>>>> * Lw4o6 is a standalone specification which provides the 
>>> same service as
>>>> MAP1:1.
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> 
>>> -------------------------------------+-------------------------
>>> ------------
>>>> Reporter:                           |      Owner:  
>>> draft-ietf-softwire-
>>>> [email protected]       |  [email protected]
>>>>   Type:  defect                   |     Status:  new
>>>> Priority:  major                    |  Milestone:
>>>> Component:  map-e                    |    Version:
>>>> Severity:  -                        |   Keywords:
>>>> 
>>> -------------------------------------+-------------------------
>>> ------------
>>>> 
>>>> Ticket URL: <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/softwire/trac/ticket/25>
>>>> softwire <http://tools.ietf.org/softwire/>
>>>> 
>>> 
> 
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