2013-02-14  16:30, Rajiv Asati (rajiva) <[email protected]> :

> 
> My vote is to keep 1:1 mode in MAP. Removing it just doesn't make sense

Your point, similar to that of Ole, is that 1:1 is intrinsic to the design.
Even if not explicitly stated, it therefore cannot be removed from it.

To put an end to this time-wasting controversy, it is then easy to just delete 
explicit references to 1:1 (section 7.4 and examples 4 and 5). 

> (else, we might as well remove supporting host routing (/32 or /128) from
> dynamic routing protocols).

Of course you aren't serious here ;-).

Regards,
RD




> 
> Cheers,
> Rajiv
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:55 AM
> To: Ole Troan <[email protected]>
> Cc: Softwires-wg list <[email protected]>,
> "[email protected]"
> <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Softwires] [softwire] #25: Maintain or remove MAP1:1 Mode?
> 
>> Hi Ole,
>> 
>> To start with, there was no consensus to include MAP1:1 in the MAP spec.
>> Unless I'm mistaken, objection to include that mode in the base MAP spec
>> was raised several times in the mailing list. It was mainly raised by
>> authors of Lw4o6 but they are also contributors to softwire.
>> 
>> As an editor of this document, with all due respect, you should ask the
>> opinion of the WG before recording the consensus into the document. The
>> WG owns this document and it can decide what to put on it.
>> 
>> I'm personally in favour of removing MAP1:1 section from this document as
>> this mode can not be packaged as stateless. But, this is only my opinion.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Med
>> 
>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>> De : Ole Troan [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Envoyé : jeudi 14 février 2013 11:14
>>> À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/OLN
>>> Cc : [email protected]; [email protected]
>>> Objet : Re: [softwire] #25: Maintain or remove MAP1:1 Mode?
>>> 
>>>> #25: Maintain or remove MAP1:1 Mode?
>>> 
>>> OK, so here is a task for whomever thinks MAP 1:1 mode should
>>> be removed.
>>> 
>>> - what does "remove MAP 1:1 mode mean"?
>>> - please suggest text changes to the mechanism that removes 1:1 mode.
>>> 
>>> given that my opinion is that 1:1 mode is an unremovable part
>>> of MAP, the question just doesn't make sense to me.
>>> 
>>> I don't want this issue to be an excuse to block a last call,
>>> can we quickly resolve this, and can we agree to drop it if
>>> there are no significant contributions within the next week?
>>> 
>>> cheers,
>>> Ole
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The WG discussed several times this point (refer to the mailing list
>>>> archives).
>>>> 
>>>> MAP1:1 mode is a particular mode which may re-use some of
>>> the provisioning
>>>> methods defined for MAP.
>>>> 
>>>> MAP1:1 vs. Lw4o6:
>>>> * MAP1:1 is not fully stateless.
>>>> * Lw4o6 is a standalone specification which provides the
>>> same service as
>>>> MAP1:1.
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> 
>>> -------------------------------------+-------------------------
>>> ------------
>>>> Reporter:                           |      Owner:
>>> draft-ietf-softwire-
>>>> [email protected]       |  [email protected]
>>>>    Type:  defect                   |     Status:  new
>>>> Priority:  major                    |  Milestone:
>>>> Component:  map-e                    |    Version:
>>>> Severity:  -                        |   Keywords:
>>>> 
>>> -------------------------------------+-------------------------
>>> ------------
>>>> 
>>>> Ticket URL: <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/softwire/trac/ticket/25>
>>>> softwire <http://tools.ietf.org/softwire/>
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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