On further researching the two non-German mails that hit Dave's qmail rule, I 
found that one was definitely spam (though not German) and the other was likely 
spam in Korean.  So I take back what I said about it hitting ham; what I mean 
is that it will hit other things than these particular German spams.

It is worth considering a variation on this rule as a Qmail spoofing test.  
True Qmail-generated Message-ID's appear to contain only digits and periods 
before the qmail@ string; everything I have seen containing alphas, either 
lowercase or uppercase, has been a spoofed header.

I apologize for any confusion my quick response caused.  I should have 
researched it more thoroughly first.

Pierre Thomson
BIC


-----Original Message-----
From: David B Funk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 5:06 PM
To: Pierre Thomson
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Flooded by spam in German


On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, Pierre Thomson wrote:

> It absolutely WILL hit on ham.  I gave Message-id =~ /qmail\@/ a score of 2.0 
> which seems to help axe the German propaganda without generating FP's.
>
> So far today we have seen 19 emails hit the qmail@ rule, of which only two 
> triggered the other German spam rules.
>
> Pierre Thomson
> BIC

Would you mind sharing with us more details about the ham that it hit?
(EG full headers with recipient names munged).

I checked a corpus of 549117 messages, found 14198 qmail message-ids,
only 25 of those hit Dave's rule.

Of those 25, 21 were the German spam (or bounces thereof) 3 were some
other kind of botched virus attack and 1 was some other kind of spam.

So altho it did hit more than just the German spam the other hits were
garbage too, so -no- FPs here for that rule.

My SMTP server has a dialup/DUL/dynamic-IP filter and it has been
blocking thousands of these things.

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