Damn, didn't know things were going that bad for you guys...  
 
I guess all that talk about letting us help you mirror to reduce the load was 
missed somewhere in the stream of emails.  Anyways, I have my scripts set for:
 
0 6 * * * /root/cronjobs/mailstats.sh
45 5 * * *  /etc/mail/spamassassin/my_rules_du_jour.sh
 
And I'm still getting the error all weekend.  Rate limited is broken guys...  
 
So, yes I can just dump RDJ and copy the files to a central location daily.  
It's not a problem.  I just think you're going about it in a complety odd way.  
Force the wget's to authenticate.  Force rate limiting based on performance and 
not denial, have a list of active subscribers that aren't rate limited by IP.
 
Gary

 
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From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon 7/19/2004 3:13 PM
To: Chris Santerre; Spamassassin-Talk (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [RDJ] Is it broken?



Gary Smith wrote:
> Even after the problem has been fixed with RDJ it will just mask the
> fact that we cannot connect to the server.  Basically, we will never
> know that it failed because no update occured.


True, however, in my cron scripts I am alerted of errors or output from any
script which is run.  If you check the output of those scripts you will see
when things go bad.

I'm a member of SARE and I'm all for the ratelimiter.   we spend a great
deal of time and effort doing our thing and some admins are irresponsible
enough to set updates for once every 2 minutes.  We have to protect
ourselves, if people are going to abuse free services (AND YOU KNOW THEY
WILL) those people providing free services need to find ways to keep
themselves in business or limit the abusers so it doesn't affect the rest.

This rate limiter is a wake up call for anyone doing more than 1 update per
day.  Even if it is 5 seperate servers behind a proxy.  This is free stuff
you are abusing, please stop abusing it and re-implement your method of
doing things.  If you know that each of those 4-5 servers will download the
same files each day, wouldn't it be best to download to a central location
and then have your servers get it from there?  It seems having all servers
download straight from us is the lazy approach.  (the same lazy approach
that causes traffic congestion in all parts of my life), if people car
pooled more, we would have more room on the roads, if people buy in bulk,
you don't have to revisit the same stores so often.  If virus writers used
IRC more often, they would not have to flood the entire internet with port
scans looking for their zombies.  In my book (and this is not directly
towards anyone in specific) this is all due to being lazy.  (it's easier to
flood internet with packets looking for zombies than to have the zombies
phone home?)  (it's easier if you jump in your own car and drive yourself to
work versus waiting for someone else)  We often value ease without thinking
of the consequences of our actions.  For once, we have the ability to force
people to follow our restrictions and I'll fight to keep it in effect (AS
SOON AS WE GET THE BUGS WORKED OUT).

RDJ to an central storage, then you could even have your servers run RDJ on
that location to check for updates.

The problem was a few people made such bad mistakes that we have to make
changes which affect everyone.  We don't like putting limits on things like
this and if it wasn't to protect our own butts we would not have done it.

SARE is run by donation from people and businesses combined.  We have a
business that donated a shell account and bandwidth.  If we abuse the free
donation, we'll be looking for a new home.  If people setup mirrors, then
everyone can hammer the mirrors all they want, as long as it doesn't
threaten our very existance.




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