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Hey guys -- suggestion: how's about sending out new versions as ZIP files via a mailing list? ie. turn it from "pull" into "push"? if you provide a script, it should be possible to automate something that users can put into /etc/aliases, then subscribe that address to the "RDJ list" -- and the updates get auto-installed as they're generated. It'd also be a handy way to spread the load of HTTP service; each mirror host has an alias that extracts the files and puts them onto its mirror. - --j. Gary Smith writes: > Damn, didn't know things were going that bad for you guys... > > I guess all that talk about letting us help you mirror to reduce the load was > missed somewhere in the stream of emails. Anyways, I have my scripts set for: > > 0 6 * * * /root/cronjobs/mailstats.sh > 45 5 * * * /etc/mail/spamassassin/my_rules_du_jour.sh > > And I'm still getting the error all weekend. Rate limited is broken guys... > > So, yes I can just dump RDJ and copy the files to a central location daily. > It's not a problem. I just think you're going about it in a complety odd > way. Force the wget's to authenticate. Force rate limiting based on > performance and not denial, have a list of active subscribers that aren't > rate limited by IP. > > Gary > > > ________________________________ > > From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Mon 7/19/2004 3:13 PM > To: Chris Santerre; Spamassassin-Talk (E-mail) > Subject: Re: [RDJ] Is it broken? > > Gary Smith wrote: > > Even after the problem has been fixed with RDJ it will just mask the > > fact that we cannot connect to the server. Basically, we will never > > know that it failed because no update occured. > > True, however, in my cron scripts I am alerted of errors or output from any > script which is run. If you check the output of those scripts you will see > when things go bad. > > I'm a member of SARE and I'm all for the ratelimiter. we spend a great > deal of time and effort doing our thing and some admins are irresponsible > enough to set updates for once every 2 minutes. We have to protect > ourselves, if people are going to abuse free services (AND YOU KNOW THEY > WILL) those people providing free services need to find ways to keep > themselves in business or limit the abusers so it doesn't affect the rest. > > This rate limiter is a wake up call for anyone doing more than 1 update per > day. Even if it is 5 seperate servers behind a proxy. This is free stuff > you are abusing, please stop abusing it and re-implement your method of > doing things. If you know that each of those 4-5 servers will download the > same files each day, wouldn't it be best to download to a central location > and then have your servers get it from there? It seems having all servers > download straight from us is the lazy approach. (the same lazy approach > that causes traffic congestion in all parts of my life), if people car > pooled more, we would have more room on the roads, if people buy in bulk, > you don't have to revisit the same stores so often. If virus writers used > IRC more often, they would not have to flood the entire internet with port > scans looking for their zombies. In my book (and this is not directly > towards anyone in specific) this is all due to being lazy. (it's easier to > flood internet with packets looking for zombies than to have the zombies > phone home?) (it's easier if you jump in your own car and drive yourself to > work versus waiting for someone else) We often value ease without thinking > of the consequences of our actions. For once, we have the ability to force > people to follow our restrictions and I'll fight to keep it in effect (AS > SOON AS WE GET THE BUGS WORKED OUT). > > RDJ to an central storage, then you could even have your servers run RDJ on > that location to check for updates. > > The problem was a few people made such bad mistakes that we have to make > changes which affect everyone. We don't like putting limits on things like > this and if it wasn't to protect our own butts we would not have done it. > > SARE is run by donation from people and businesses combined. We have a > business that donated a shell account and bandwidth. If we abuse the free > donation, we'll be looking for a new home. If people setup mirrors, then > everyone can hammer the mirrors all they want, as long as it doesn't > threaten our very existance. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh CVS iD8DBQFA/F9JQTcbUG5Y7woRAgVaAKDa5l6bvD1OuSVii318yVqjxdULzwCgsGqV gwCt2bj49AgHmFet5GGEKho= =8pRW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
