Not that it matters, but I agree with Sam on this.

Personally, I don't whitelist yahoo.com, and I wouldn't use a dnswl that 
included them (nor any other major ESP). Let the chips otherwise fall 
where they may. If one of yahoo's IPs happens to get blacklisted, 
there's likely a good reason for it, and they should clean up their 
mess. Does anyone use yahoo for serious email any more?

In your situation, I think use of the badmailfrom file is entirely 
appropriate. I still use it for a few things.

-- 
-Eric 'shubes'

On 07/30/2012 10:51 AM, Sam Clippinger wrote:
> I understand what you're saying -- whitelists shouldn't always override 
> blacklists.  But if I tried to change this, how would it work?  Perhaps 
> whitelisting a specific address (e.g. [email protected]) would override a 
> domain blacklist (e.g. @domain.com) while blacklisting a specific address 
> would override a domain whitelist?  But what about all the other 
> blacklist/whitelist options?  Do DNS RBLs override DNS RHSWLs?  Do rDNS 
> blacklists override IP whitelists?  Do entries in configuration directories 
> override entries from the global configuration file?  Should the order of 
> priorities itself be configurable?
>
> Overall this looks like a troubleshooting nightmare to me -- an administrator 
> would never be able to understand whether a whitelist had priority over a 
> blacklist without rereading the documentation (and possibly testing it to be 
> sure).  I understand the problem you're facing, but I think making blacklists 
> override whitelists some of the time would cause a lot more problems than it 
> would solve.
>
> -- Sam Clippinger
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 29, 2012, at 5:04 AM, Lutz Petersen wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've some trouble with spamdykes recipient blacklist option. Let me
>> give you an example:
>>
>> Recipients domain is @domain.tld
>>
>> Now theres flooding in senseless mails for <[email protected]> and
>> I made an blacklist entry for this recipient.
>>
>> This works fine for a lot of cases. But, for example, all mails from
>> the spamfree yahoo community (thats a joke if you don't understand..)
>> will get through. This is because any kind of whitelist match overwrite
>> any kind of blacklist match within the spamdyke logic. And well known
>> mailservers like that one from yahoo naturally are within our own dns
>> whitelist (to prevent blocking) or in others like dnswl.org etc.
>>
>> I don't see the sense why an explicit 'blacklist recipient' entry
>> should ever be overwritten from any whitelisting. The only solution
>> I found for this special case (beware, this single case made some
>> 10000 senseless emails every day) was to add this single recipient
>> address not in spamdyke but in qmail's badmailfrom file.
>>
>> Lutz Petersen
>>
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