Hi Mike, Thanks for your efforts with helping Eliza, and for your good thoughts and comments. I'd like to respond to a few things:
1) Boost in the TPP: I'd like to clarify how we've set things up. The included Boost under tpp/extern is compiled and used without any system interactions (at least, that's the idea, and works as described for us on our tested linux systems: Centos 5.2, Ubuntu 8.10, 9.04 and 9.10). That is, like the ProteoWizard project, and our use of expat, we don't install anything to your system directory. The Boost library is a valuable addition to standard C++, but between changes to their API and build issues between Boost point releases, we have found it necessary to fix the TPP's dependency at a specific Boost version. It's simply too difficult to support Boost dependency issues on all the different distributions if we rely on (hopefully) existing distro Boost packages. There's no extra work for you to do. 2) Separating dependencies out of the TPP: This is a great idea, which also requires a more robust built system that can deal with ensuring correct library versions are installed, and adapting to different library installation schemes (names and locations) on different distros. To this end I'm currently working on improving the build system to meet these requirements. When that work is completed (probably for TPP 4.4) making use of libraries installed through the traditional methods should be much easier, as should be building the TPP on various distributions. Natalie On Sep 8, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Mike Coleman wrote: > > Version 1.39 of Boost isn't in Ubuntu currently, so there's nothing to > link to that way. I assume you mean doing something like folding > Boost into the TPP/extern directory and handling Boost as libexpat is > handled, for example. I'm not completely unsympathetic to this idea, > but on the whole I'm against this. Having your own local copy means > supporting your own local copy, which translates into more work (which > I don't like to do :-). > > As to whether it's worthwhile to package TPP for Linux, I don't know. > I've been trying to help out Eliza, who would clearly benefit. I'd > have probably tried out TPP sooner myself if there had been an easily > installed Linux package. But are there really a lot of potential > users, and does the TPP project care about reaching them? I don't > even know how large the Windows user community is. > > As to volunteering, it's not out of the question. It'd depend on the > above (whether it's really worth doing). Also, I think that in order > to make this work well, we'd really want to separate TPP from its > dependencies. That is, rather than including expat (for example) in > the TPP source tree, instead have each version stipulate that it > depends on version X of expat (or more typically, version X or > later). I think this would greatly simplify the packaging task. (You > could still provide an auxilliary tarball of the dependencies for > Windows users, but Linux users would get them "for free" as part of > their distribution.) > > That's my thought. Does it sound radical? > > Mike > > > > On Sep 8, 11:05 am, Matthew Chambers <matthew.chamb...@vanderbilt.edu> > wrote: >> If TPP would link to boost statically it wouldn't be an issue. But >> IIRC >> there has been a thread on this topic before and it wasn't deemed >> worth >> the effort of maintaining...unless you're volunteering? ;) >> >> -Matt >> >> Mike Coleman wrote: >>> Has there been any thought about packaging up TPP for Ubuntu/Debian >>> and possibly RedHat/CentOS? >> >>> I went through the exercise of installing it from scratch, following >>> the directions on the wiki page, and I can imagine that this would >>> be >>> quite daunting for a non-programmer. >> >>> Just off the top of my head, it looks like the main problem to solve >>> will be that TPP is tending to rely on bleeding-edge versions of the >>> Boost libraries. Is there any chance that a change could be made to >>> stick with versions that are merely reasonably current (and thus >>> packaged)? (Ubuntu Jaunty has 1.37, for example.) > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "spctools-discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to spctools-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to spctools-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/spctools-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
