Hi Brendan,

Currently, Tandem2XML scans the “potential modifications” tags of
tandem results file and writes them to the modification summary in the
pepXML. Point mutations would not be listed in “potential
modifications” tags of tandem results file. Only way you can find out
about them is to look for “point mutations” tag in the tandem XML. If
that tag is set to “yes”, then you have to pre-scan all peptide-
spectral matches (PSMs), build a table of point mutations seen in the
entire file, and write them to modification summary.

Another clean way of doing the same is to ignore the “potential
modifications” tag altogether. Pre-scan all PSMs for mods, and build a
table of seen mods, and write them to the modification summary. This
would option would work regardless of whether tandem is configured to
find mods or mutations. Both these options require a redesign of the
Tandem2XML source.

Meanwhile, I put in a stop gap fix that would write unknown mods to
pepXML instead of ignoring them. To me, ignoring them altogether  is a
bigger problem than leaving them out of modification summary. Sure, it
produces inconsistent pepXMLs for programs that look at the
modification summary, but my feeling is that not a lot of programs
look at that summary.

Thanks,
Surendra


On Dec 11, 10:38 am, Brendan <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Surendra,
> The warning indicates that the correct modification specifications
> were not written as <aminoacid_modification> tags to the
> <search_summary> section of the pepXML.  I guess just writing the
> <mod_aminoacid_mass> tags in the <search_hits> might be an improvement
> over just dropping them, but the real solution should be to figure out
> why the <aminoacid_modification> tags aren't getting written.
>
> Is there anything in the X! Tandem parameters than can be read as
> indicating that these modifications are possible?  Usually there is.
>
> If you don't write internally consistent modifications, some tools
> like CPAS (on which I was working when I wrote Tandem2XML) will have
> difficulty consuming the resulting pepXML.  I am sure Jimmy Eng or
> Brian Pratt (included on this message) can help you connect with
> people currently working on the TPP.
>
> --Brendan
>
> On Dec 10, 9:24 am, dasaris <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi There,
>
> >                I noticed an issue in Tandem2XML program. When the
> > program encounters a modification that is not in input parameters, it
> > issues an "unknown modification" warning and ignores it. However, this
> > often happens when people search for point mutations with X! Tandem. I
> > fixed the program such that it will write any unknown modifications to
> > the pepXML instead of ignoring them. Let me know if you are interested
> > in getting the fix into your source tree.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Surendra

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