The  "DECOY=" option in the PeptideProphetParser command specifies the
text string that denotes your decoy entries.  This string is the text
in the protein description line directly following the > character.
So your decoy entries in case A should be denoted by the text string
"sp|decoy" or command line argument "DECOY=sp|decoy".  But you told
PeptideProphetParser to just look for "decoy" using the option
"DECOY=decoy" which is why it failed to find any decoys in case A.
Hope this makes sense.

However, you're also going to face problems trying to pass the "|"
character in the decoy string as the shell will treat it as a pipe
command.  You'd have to escape it and hope that works.  Or better yet
get rid of the "|" character altogether in your decoy string.

On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Jagan Kommineni
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I have created decoy database for the latest uniprot_sprot_April2010
> database by modifying the original Matrix Science decoy.pl script to get
> customized header format.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Case A: Here are few decoy entries in the database created with decoy.pl:
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>sp|decoy_Q197F8|002R_IIV3 Reverse sequence, was Uncharacterized protein
>> 002R OS=Invertebrate iridescent virus 3 GN=IIV3-002R PE=4 SV=1
> CDDESDSDDDESDSDYEFDEDESNYNSDLSCFYRDISQIKKPKPKFGLSKMLNTITLKGK
> ELIRAAVSPEEETETEWDSDDSDPAWTPDDEDSSDEEGSSFSEDDFHENEPDSDSEYGTG
> DRNLQSIRLLFKYMEVQAPTKLPNNEVWDTDRKHLITSYMYRRHFKNDEVRYGHWEDEQF
> LVWVYIPRPVNEYRYSNTCYFTEINDTCWQVFPKNVGYTEFIYLYKLTSQMSKIGDMVPG
> FWRPHMDLNKITLHTLSPAWFDTFGCADEVMLHTLFELDDLGLDGHTNYNMDDIRRIVLR
> TVNPTTELIAKIEEARTDTFHIEQIKEPFAYERQFDEFTIASVRVVNDKYWRTWLWPHKC
> WSIQEWSLYQMIDLKIELPLLELSEVPGSYDESPESTQLEPYREALAQERNMKWPVISGP
> QENWIPDFLLFQAVDQINSFDRVPRNSGGQASVTNSAM
>>sp|decoy_Q197F7|003L_IIV3 Reverse sequence, was Uncharacterized protein
>> 003L OS=Invertebrate iridescent virus 3 GN=IIV3-003L PE=4 SV=1
> IGYTLPELRCTGYNNKRTKSNTILLRYTDPATNSTTSPRDSAVCECRQPSKASGFDFCLT
> GIRRPPNIHPPSDVMGLSTPPTCAALSPPTCTTLSPTTTLSRANLSTDFWAGGLANPHVP
> YYNPYHPAGSMKCVIERELQPSGYWSQPCPNIAQYM
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The original entries corresponding to the above entries are as follows .....
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>sp|Q197F8|002R_IIV3 Uncharacterized protein 002R OS=Invertebrate iridescent
>> virus 3 GN=IIV3-002R PE=4 SV=1
> MASNTVSAQGGSNRPVRDFSNIQDVAQFLLFDPIWNEQPGSIVPWKMNREQALAERYPEL
> QTSEPSEDYSGPVESLELLPLEIKLDIMQYLSWEQISWCKHPWLWTRWYKDNVVRVSAIT
> FEDFQREYAFPEKIQEIHFTDTRAEEIKAILETTPNVTRLVIRRIDDMNYNTHGDLGLDD
> LEFLTHLMVEDACGFTDFWAPSLTHLTIKNLDMHPRWFGPVMDGIKSMQSTLKYLYIFET
> YGVNKPFVQWCTDNIETFYCTNSYRYENVPRPIYVWVLFQEDEWHGYRVEDNKFHRRYMY
> STILHKRDTDWVENNPLKTPAQVEMYKFLLRISQLNRDGTGYESDSDPENEHFDDESFSS
> GEEDSSDEDDPTWAPDSDDSDWETETEEEPSVAARILEKGKLTITNLMKSLGFKPKPKKI
> QSIDRYFCSLDSNYNSEDEDFEYDSDSEDDDSDSEDDC
>>sp|Q197F7|003L_IIV3 Uncharacterized protein 003L OS=Invertebrate iridescent
>> virus 3 GN=IIV3-003L PE=4 SV=1
> MYQAINPCPQSWYGSPQLEREIVCKMSGAPHYPNYYPVHPNALGGAWFDTSLNARSLTTT
> PSLTTCTPPSLAACTPPTSLGMVDSPPHINPPRRIGTLCFDFGSAKSPQRCECVASDRPS
> TTSNTAPDTYRLLITNSKTRKNNYGTCRLEPLTYGI
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Case B: Here is the format decoy entries when I use decoyFasta of TPP
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>decoy_1
> ...............................
> ..............................
>>decoy_2
> ............................
> ............................
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I have used same parameters and input files for running OMSSA search and
> PeptideProphet but I notice the segmentation fault in the case A however
> PeptideProphet runs OK for the Case B.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Here is the STDOUT display for Case A( when I use decoy.pl)
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> [r...@apcf-hn3 jagan-J442]# /mnt/sanfs/APCF/APCF_WEB/tpp/bin/InteractParser
> 'jagan-J442.pepprophet.xml' 'jagan-J442.pep.xml'  -L'7'  -E'trypsin' -C -P
>  file 1: jagan-J442.pep.xml
>  processed altogether 123 results
>
>
>  results written to file
> /mnt/sanfs/APCF/results/omssa/2010-08-02/jagan-J442/jagan-J442.pepprophet.shtml
>
> [r...@apcf-hn3 jagan-J442]#
> /mnt/sanfs/APCF/APCF_WEB/tpp/bin/PeptideProphetParser
> 'jagan-J442.pepprophet.xml' DECOY=decoy MINPROB=0 NONPARAM
> Using Decoy Label "decoy".
> Using non-parametric distributions
>  (OMSSA) (minprob 0)
> WARNING!! The discriminant function for OMSSA is not yet complete.  It is
> presented here to help facilitate trial and discussion.  Reliance on this
> code for publishable scientific results is not recommended.
> init with OMSSA trypsin
> MS Instrument info: Manufacturer: UNKNOWN, Model: UNKNOWN, Ionization:
> UNKNOWN, Analyzer: UNKNOWN, Detector: UNKNOWN
>
>  PeptideProphet  (TPP v4.4 JETSTREAM (unstable development prerelease) rev
> 0, Build 201007011135 (linux)) akel...@isb
>  read in 0 1+, 78 2+, 45 3+, 0 4+, 0 5+, 0 6+, and 0 7+ spectra.
> Initialising statistical models ...
> Found 0 Decoys, and 123 Non-Decoys
> WARNING: No decoys with label decoy were found in this dataset. reverting to
> fully unsupervised method.
> Iterations: .........10.........20
> Segmentation fault
> [r...@apcf-hn3 jagan-J442]#
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> In Case B (decoyFasta of TPP has been used), here is the STDOUT ....
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> [r...@apcf-hn3 jagan-J443]# /mnt/sanfs/APCF/APCF_WEB/tpp/bin/InteractParser
> 'jagan-J443.pepprophet.xml' 'jagan-J443.pep.xml'  -L'7'  -E'trypsin' -C -P
>  file 1: jagan-J443.pep.xml
>  processed altogether 123 results
>
>
>  results written to file
> /mnt/sanfs/APCF/results/omssa/2010-08-02/jagan-J443/jagan-J443.pepprophet.shtml
>
>
>
> [r...@apcf-hn3 jagan-J443]#
> /mnt/sanfs/APCF/APCF_WEB/tpp/bin/PeptideProphetParser
> 'jagan-J443.pepprophet.xml' DECOY=decoy MINPROB=0 NONPARAM
> Using Decoy Label "decoy".
> Using non-parametric distributions
>  (OMSSA) (minprob 0)
> WARNING!! The discriminant function for OMSSA is not yet complete.  It is
> presented here to help facilitate trial and discussion.  Reliance on this
> code for publishable scientific results is not recommended.
> init with OMSSA trypsin
> MS Instrument info: Manufacturer: UNKNOWN, Model: UNKNOWN, Ionization:
> UNKNOWN, Analyzer: UNKNOWN, Detector: UNKNOWN
>
>  PeptideProphet  (TPP v4.4 JETSTREAM (unstable development prerelease) rev
> 0, Build 201007011135 (linux)) akel...@isb
>  read in 0 1+, 78 2+, 45 3+, 0 4+, 0 5+, 0 6+, and 0 7+ spectra.
> Initialising statistical models ...
> Found 2 Decoys, and 121 Non-Decoys
> Iterations: .........10.........20.....
> WARNING: Mixture model quality test failed for charge (1+).
> WARNING: Mixture model quality test failed for charge (2+).
> WARNING: Mixture model quality test failed for charge (4+).
> WARNING: Mixture model quality test failed for charge (5+).
> WARNING: Mixture model quality test failed for charge (6+).
> WARNING: Mixture model quality test failed for charge (7+).
> model complete after 26 iterations
> [r...@apcf-hn3 jagan-J443]#
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Which is the best way to make the Case A sematics to work with TPP pipeline
> ....
>
> Here is the difference in the contents of the pepXML files from the Case A
> to Case B
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> <  date="2010-08-02T11:15:41"
> summary_xml="/home/APCF/omssa/results/2b78d709e0fc1276e3bdff7faa1c95a8/jagan-J443.pep.xml">
> <   <msms_run_summary
> base_name="/home/APCF/omssa/results/2b78d709e0fc1276e3bdff7faa1c95a8/jagan-j443_62928"
> raw_data_type="raw" raw_data=".mzXML">
> ---
>>  date="2010-08-02T10:52:40"
>> summary_xml="/home/APCF/omssa/results/091b4664500d7e67d0eba75ef9170064/jagan-J442.pep.xml">
>>   <msms_run_summary
>> base_name="/home/APCF/omssa/results/091b4664500d7e67d0eba75ef9170064/jagan-j442_62921"
>> raw_data_type="raw" raw_data=".mzXML">
> 11c11
> <     <search_summary
> base_name="/home/APCF/omssa/results/2b78d709e0fc1276e3bdff7faa1c95a8/jagan-j443_62928"
> search_engine="OMSSA" precursor_mass_type="monoisotopic"
> fragment_mass_type="monoisotopi
> c" out_data_type="n/a" out_data="n/a" search_id="1">
> ---
>>     <search_summary
>> base_name="/home/APCF/omssa/results/091b4664500d7e67d0eba75ef9170064/jagan-j442_62921"
>> search_engine="OMSSA" precursor_mass_type="monoisotopic"
>> fragment_mass_type="monoisotopi
> c" out_data_type="n/a" out_data="n/a" search_id="1">
> 17c17
> <         <search_hit hit_rank="1" peptide="KENNNNNNNK" peptide_prev_aa="K"
> peptide_next_aa="N" protein="285922" num_tot_proteins="1"
> num_matched_ions="16" tot_num_ions="18" calc_neutral_pep_mass="
> 1201.545" massdiff="-0.862000000000007" is_rejected="0"
> protein_descr="sp|Q54UC0|PRKDC_DICDI DNA-dependent protein kinase catalytic
> subunit OS=Dictyostelium discoideum GN=dnapkcs PE=3 SV=2">
> ---
>>         <search_hit hit_rank="1" peptide="KENNNNNNNK" peptide_prev_aa="K"
>> peptide_next_aa="N" protein="Q54UC0" num_tot_proteins="1"
>> num_matched_ions="16" tot_num_ions="18" calc_neutral_pep_mass="
> 1201.545" massdiff="-0.862000000000007" is_rejected="0"
> protein_descr="DNA-dependent protein kinase catalytic subunit
> OS=Dictyostelium discoideum GN=dnapkcs PE=3 SV=2">
> 25c25
> <         <search_hit hit_rank="1" peptide="WQGHEGDIDK" peptide_prev_aa="K"
> peptide_next_aa="G" protein="132542" num_tot_proteins="1"
> num_matched_ions="13" tot_num_ions="18" calc_neutral_pep_mass="
> 1183.526" massdiff="-0.000999999999909" is_rejected="0"
> protein_descr="sp|O95395|GCNT3_HUMAN
> Beta-1,3-galactosyl-O-glycosyl-glycoprotein
> beta-1,6-N-acetylglucosaminyltransferase 3 OS=Homo sapiens G
> N=GCNT3 PE=2 SV=1">
> ---
>>         <search_hit hit_rank="1" peptide="WQGHEGDIDK" peptide_prev_aa="K"
>> peptide_next_aa="G" protein="O95395" num_tot_proteins="1"
>> num_matched_ions="13" tot_num_ions="18" calc_neutral_pep_mass="
> 1183.526" massdiff="-0.000999999999909" is_rejected="0"
> protein_descr="Beta-1,3-galactosyl-O-glycosyl-glycoprotein
> beta-1,6-N-acetylglucosaminyltransferase 3 OS=Homo sapiens GN=GCNT3 PE=2
> SV=1">
> 33,34c33,34
> <         <search_hit hit_rank="1" peptide="SKAEAESLYQSK"
> peptide_prev_aa="K" peptide_next_aa="Y" protein="183292"
> num_tot_proteins="2" num_matched_ions="19" tot_num_ions="22"
> calc_neutral_pep_mass
> ="1339.663" massdiff="-0.001999999999942" is_rejected="0"
> protein_descr="sp|P04264|K2C1_HUMAN Keratin, type II cytoskeletal 1 OS=Homo
> sapiens GN=KRT1 PE=1 SV=6">
> <           <alternative_protein protein="183294"
> protein_descr="sp|A5A6M6|K2C1_PANTR Keratin, type II cytoskeletal 1 OS=Pan
> troglodytes GN=KRT1 PE=2 SV=1"/>
> ---
>>         <search_hit hit_rank="1" peptide="SKAEAESLYQSK"
>> peptide_prev_aa="K" peptide_next_aa="Y" protein="P04264"
>> num_tot_proteins="2" num_matched_ions="19" tot_num_ions="22"
>> calc_neutral_pep_mass
> ="1339.663" massdiff="-0.001999999999942" is_rejected="0"
> protein_descr="Keratin, type II cytoskeletal 1 OS=Homo sapiens GN=KRT1 PE=1
> SV=6">
>>           <alternative_protein protein="A5A6M6" protein_descr="Keratin,
>> type II cytoskeletal 1 OS=Pan troglodytes GN=KRT1 PE=2 SV=1"/>
> 42c42
> <         <search_hit hit_rank="1" peptide="NQNESVSEIGGK"
> peptide_prev_aa="R" peptide_next_aa="I" protein="394680"
> num_tot_proteins="1" num_matched_ions="18" tot_num_ions="22"
> calc_neutral_pep_mass
> ="1260.595" massdiff="-0.001999999999925" is_rejected="0"
> protein_descr="sp|Q68CR1|SE1L3_HUMAN Protein sel-1 homolog 3 OS=Homo sapiens
> GN=SEL1L3 PE=1 SV=2">
> ---
>>         <search_hit hit_rank="1" peptide="NQNESVSEIGGK"
>> peptide_prev_aa="R" peptide_next_aa="I" protein="Q68CR1"
>> num_tot_proteins="1" num_matched_ions="18" tot_num_ions="22"
>> calc_neutral_pep_mass
> ="1260.595" massdiff="-0.001999999999925" is_rejected="0"
> protein_descr="Protein sel-1 homolog 3 OS=Homo sapiens GN=SEL1L3 PE=1 SV=2">
> 50c50
> <         <search_hit hit_rank="1" peptide="LVGATATSSPPPK"
> peptide_prev_aa="R" peptide_next_aa="A" protein="452919"
> num_tot_proteins="1" num_matched_ions="15" tot_num_ions="24"
> calc_neutral_pep_mas
> s="1224.672" massdiff="-0.002999999999904" is_rejected="0"
> protein_descr="sp|Q96QD9|UIF_HUMAN UAP56-interacting factor OS=Homo sapiens
> GN=FYTTD1 PE=1 SV=3">
> ---
>>         <search_hit hit_rank="1" peptide="LVGATATSSPPPK"
>> peptide_prev_aa="R" peptide_next_aa="A" protein="Q96QD9"
>> num_tot_proteins="1" num_matched_ions="15" tot_num_ions="24"
>> calc_neutral_pep_mas
> s="1224.672" massdiff="-0.002999999999904" is_rejected="0"
> protein_descr="UAP56-interacting factor OS=Homo sapiens GN=FYTTD1 PE=1
> SV=3">
> 58c58
> <         <search_hit hit_rank="1" peptide="LHQDTFNQLHK" peptide_prev_aa="K"
> peptide_next_aa="V" protein="136270" num_tot_proteins="1"
> num_matched_ions="20" tot_num_ions="20" calc_neutral_pep_mass=
> "1379.696" massdiff="-0.003000000000016" is_rejected="0"
> protein_descr="sp|Q8NCI6|GLBL3_HUMAN Beta-galactosidase-1-like protein 3
> OS=Homo sapiens GN=GLB1L3 PE=2 SV=3">
> ---
>>         <search_hit hit_rank="1" peptide="LHQDTFNQLHK" peptide_prev_aa="K"
>> peptide_next_aa="V" protein="Q8NCI6" num_tot_proteins="1"
>> num_matched_ions="20" tot_num_ions="20" calc_neutral_pep_mass=
> "1379.696" massdiff="-0.003000000000016" is_rejected="0"
> protein_descr="Beta-galactosidase-1-like protein 3 OS=Homo sapiens GN=GLB1L3
> PE=2 SV=3">
> 66c66
> <         <search_hit hit_rank="1" peptide="SVGLGTESTGR" peptide_prev_aa="R"
> peptide_next_aa="G" protein="136270" num_tot_proteins="1"
> num_matched_ions="17" tot_num_ions="20" calc_neutral_pep_mass=
> "1062.53" massdiff="0.000999999999949" is_rejected="0"
> protein_descr="sp|Q8NCI6|GLBL3_HUMAN Beta-galactosidase-1-like protein 3
> OS=Homo sapiens GN=GLB1L3 PE=2 SV=3">
> ---
>>         <search_hit hit_rank="1" peptide="SVGLGTESTGR" peptide_prev_aa="R"
>> peptide_next_aa="G" protein="Q8NCI6" num_tot_proteins="1"
>> num_matched_ions="17" tot_num_ions="20" calc_neutral_pep_mass=
> "1062.53" massdiff="0.000999999999949" is_rejected="0"
> protein_descr="Beta-galactosidase-1-like protein 3 OS=Homo sapiens GN=GLB1L3
> PE=2 SV=3">
> 74c74
> <         <search_hit hit_rank="1" peptide="NQNESVSEIGGK"
> peptide_prev_aa="R" peptide_next_aa="I" protein="394680"
> num_tot_proteins="1" num_matched_ions="12" tot_num_ions="22"
> calc_neutral_pep_mass
> ="1260.595" massdiff="-0.006000000000058" is_rejected="0"
> protein_descr="sp|Q68CR1|SE1L3_HUMAN Protein sel-1 homolog 3 OS=Homo sapiens
> GN=SEL1L3 PE=1 SV=2">
> ---
>>         <search_hit hit_rank="1" peptide="NQNESVSEIGGK"
>> peptide_prev_aa="R" peptide_next_aa="I" protein="Q68CR1"
>> num_tot_proteins="1" num_matched_ions="12" tot_num_ions="22"
>> calc_neutral_pep_mass
> ="1260.595" massdiff="-0.006000000000058" is_rejected="0"
> protein_descr="Protein sel-1 homolog 3 OS=Homo sapiens GN=SEL1L3 PE=1 SV=2">
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> with regards,
>
> Dr. Jagan Kommineni
> Ludwig Institute for Cancer research
> Pakville VIC 3145
> Australia.
>
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