Thanks Kristian.

I think you have summed up the situation well. I did use Tandem ETD in
previous just like  you told, but CYCLONE release of X!Tandem says it has
incorporated rules found by pFind group. So, if I have to use it like the
way I did earlier, I am just curious how do they implement other rules(other
than c,z).

pFind gives almost double/triple of what others can. Although it is evident
it was mean for ETD, some of the matches I have seen (manual interpretation)
are too poor to justify. Weak matches are undertandable but they were
outright poor (say 3-4 peaks in a 20mer peptide). Thats why I am confused.

I am going to try MassMatrix for sure, thanks DD for pointing it out.


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On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Kristian <[email protected]>wrote:

> I've used OMSSA and X!Tandem with ETD data.  I get slightly different
> results, but that's to be expected from different search engines.  I
> haven't tried  X!Tandem Tornado yet, but in previous versions all you
> had to do to search ETD data was specify c and z ions and exclude
> a,b,x,y ions.  See http://www.thegpm.org/TANDEM/api/index.html for
> help on formatting X!Tandem params files.
>
> Of the search engines you mentioned, I believe pFind is the only one
> that was designed to specifically deal with ETD data, especially the
> neutral losses from charge reduced (a.k.a. ET no D) species.
> Optimizing searching of ETD data is still a work in progress in the
> proteomics community, so there isn't really an established best way to
> do it.  But others may have a different opinion on that.
>
> On Jul 25, 8:08 am, DD <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I know Massmatrix (free/open-source) accepts ETD, ECD and CID/ETD.  It
> > is easy to install.  It is a nice piece of software.
> > DD
> >
> > On Jul 25, 5:45 am, Amit Kumar Yadav <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Dear All,
> >
> > > I want to know about some ETD search tools, preferably
> free/open-source.
> >
> > > I tried Mascot, OMSSA and pFIND but getting drastically different
> > > results.Don't know what to believe. X!Tandem TORNADO download page says
> that
> > > they have incorporated ETD search citing pFind's latest paper
> (JPR,2010).
> > > But, I could not find any help on how to use the function.
> >
> > > I am confused. Can anyone lead me to some good ETD search algorithm.
>
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