Ahhh, so it's intended, and it's appropriately part of "quick pyrolidone". 
Sorry about that.

Thanks!
Damon

On Friday, May 24, 2013 3:09:03 PM UTC-7, Jimmy Eng wrote:
>
> Damon:
>
> "If a peptide has an N-terminal Q or E, it will spontaneously eliminate 
> -17 Da (-NH3) or -18 (-H2O) respectively, to form an N-terminal pyrolidone 
> carboxylic acid. If the N-terminal residue is C and it has been modified by 
> iodoacetimide, it also has an analogous reaction (-17, -NH3). Because they 
> are rather special (they always occur to some degree), they are the only 
> potential modifications that are built into X! Tandem."
>
>
> On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Damon May <[email protected]<javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>> I'm running X! TANDEM CYCLONE TPP (2011.12.01.1) in TPP 4.6.2 on Ubuntu 
>> 12.04.2 LTS.
>>
>> Similarly to the May 17 issue posted by GATTACA, I'm seeing X!Tandem 
>> search results with a variable Cys modification not specified in my 
>> parameter files. Specifically, from the xtan.xml:
>>
>> <aa type="C" at="117" modified="-17.02655" />
>>
>> This only appears to happen on peptide n-terminal C residues, and it 
>> doesn't appear on all n-terminal Cysteines. This is identical behavior to 
>> the "quick pyrolidone" modification for Q:
>>
>> http://www.thegpm.org/tandem/api/pqp.html
>>
>> But it's happening on C as well as Q. If I run a search with this 
>> parameter specified:
>>
>>         <note type="input" label="protein, quick pyrolidone">no</note>
>>
>> ...then, as expected, I don't get the -17.02655 modification on 
>> n-terminal Q, and I also don't get it on n-terminal C.
>>
>> It looks to me like, most likely, the "quick pyrolidone" modification is 
>> erroneously (?) declaring a variable modification on n-terminal C and Q, 
>> rather than just Q. Can anyone verify that this is what's going on and 
>> indicate whether it's intended or not? If it's unintended, might there be a 
>> workaround other than disabling "quick pyrolidone"?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Damon
>>
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