Hi Alejandro,

You can expect this feature for the next release of TPP (or you can get it
now by compiling from our latest code tree).

Cheers,
--Luis


On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 4:12 AM, Alejandro <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Luis,
>
> Thank you very much. I'm already testing it and for a few datasets that I
> have tested it looks good and quite comparable to the Xpress based on
> areas, although with much narrow standard deviation. Is it planned to use
> this as an alternative for the Xpress quantitaion alos at the protein
> level? Right now I'm exploring if I could get an intensity based ratio at
> the protein level by using the peptide information (if it contribute with
> evidence for the protein assembly) and then calculating the mean of the
> peptide ratios of every protein.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alejandro
>
> On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 8:28:12 PM UTC+1, Luis wrote:
>>
>> Hi Alejandro,
>>
>> You can download the updated Xpress and interfaces from our dev staging
>> site:
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/sashimi/files/Trans-Proteom
>> ic%20Pipeline%20%28TPP%29/TPP%20v0.0%20%28Development%29/
>>
>> Unzip XpressIntensityUpdate.zip, and place XPressPeptideParser.exe under
>> the C:\TPP\bin\ directory, and the other 2 files under C:\TPP\cgi-bin\ (or
>> wherever you installed TPP).  I also recommend making backups of the
>> original files in case you need them.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> --Luis
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Alejandro <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Luis,
>>>
>>> Oh good to hear that it is already solved. If I could have a windows
>>> binary would be really useful.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Alejandro
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 8:06:25 PM UTC+1, Luis wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Alejandro,
>>>>
>>>> The misreported intensity ratios was a bug when using the -L or -H
>>>> options in XPRESS.  We have fixed this, as well as added support for those
>>>> fields in PepXMLViewer and Petunia.  If you are building from sources,
>>>> simply build revision 7683, or let us know if you would like Windows
>>>> binaries.  This will also be in the next official release of TPP.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for reporting this, and for the positive feedback on 5.1!
>>>> --Luis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Alejandro <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Luis,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I would be really interested in testing it out as soon as you
>>>>> have a pre-release!
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't checked if thats also the case with an older version, I
>>>>> should have a computer running 4.8. I will check it out and see.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the info on the tag, I will try to then find the mod tag.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, great release with the 5.1, so far I have found it quite good to
>>>>> work with.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Alejandro
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, November 18, 2017 at 4:07:04 AM UTC+1, Luis wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Alejandro,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We will add these columns to the PepXMLViewer for the next release; I
>>>>>> can let you know when we have a pre-release version if you would be
>>>>>> interested in testing it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not sure why the ratios are not being correctly calculated; we
>>>>>> will have a look and try to fix as well for the next release.  Did you 
>>>>>> also
>>>>>> have trouble with this feature with the previous version of TPP?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As you noted, modified peptide masses are rounded when reported in
>>>>>> the modified_peptide attribute of protXML in order save space and for
>>>>>> making the display simpler.  You can find the full modification masses
>>>>>> within the mod_aminoacid_mas tags within modification_info.  Or just 
>>>>>> round
>>>>>> the pepXML masses when comparing peptides.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> --Luis
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 6:04 AM, Alejandro <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been running since a while the 5.1 release candidate and
>>>>>>> since a week or so the new 5.1 release with great success thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lately I have been running more the TPP tools from the command-line
>>>>>>> and came across the option in XPRESS to export intensities as well as
>>>>>>> intensity based ratios of labeled type of data. I have used it but I 
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> see the option in Petunia in the Pepxml viewer to add it to the table. 
>>>>>>> By
>>>>>>> manual inspection of the Pepxml, file I see them reported within the 
>>>>>>> xpress
>>>>>>> tag, although the ratio is always reported as 0.000, even though the
>>>>>>> intensities are reported, and by manually calculating in some peptides 
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> seems quite close to the ratio calculated from the areas, as expected. 
>>>>>>> Is
>>>>>>> there an option to parse those out when exporting the tsv file? Moreover
>>>>>>> have you have some experience on using the intensities as input for the
>>>>>>> protein ratio/abundance calculation? I tried to see if I could build it 
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> up using the intensities but the peptides are annotated different in the
>>>>>>> Pepxml, than in the Protxml. All modifications are annotated either with
>>>>>>> the more precise mass shift or rounded. e.g CAM is reported as C[160.03]
>>>>>>> for the peptides in the Pepxml whereas as C[160] for in Protxml.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another question that I have related to xpress is if you have any
>>>>>>> experience on better settings for data analyzed on hi-res MS, ie. Q
>>>>>>> Exactive. Fixed elution peaks, number of chromatograms points, or 
>>>>>>> number of
>>>>>>> 13C isotopic peaks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any thoughts on this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alejandro
>>>>>>>
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