Hi 

Eric wrote:
Kevin P. Fleming <[email protected]>:
>> And on the subject of the MIT- annd BSD-style licenses, removing the 
>> license notice which contains the copyright holder(s)' name(s) and 
>> replacing it with an SPDX license identifier is a material change.

>Altering copyrights is a different and much more legally dicey proposition 
>than altering licenses.  My code >doesn't touch copyrights.

>Another common misconception, which the SPDX list unfortunately encourages, is 
>that the copyright is part of >the license.  It is not; it is legally prior to 
>the license and is displayed in association because it is the 
>>copyright-holder's authority for imposing the license.



I think there is a misunderstanding. In my opinion Kevin had the following 
class of licenses in mind, when he made the point:

Permission to use, copy, modify, distribute, and sell this software and 
 its documentation for any purpose is hereby granted without fee, provided
 that (i) the above copyright notices and this permission notice appear in
 all copies of the software and related documentation, and (ii) the names of
 Sam Leffler and Silicon Graphics may not be used in any advertising or
 publicity relating to the software without the specific, prior written
 permission of Sam Leffler and Silicon Graphics.

 THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS-IS" AND WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, 
 EXPRESS, IMPLIED OR OTHERWISE, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION, ANY 
 WARRANTY OF MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. 

 IN NO EVENT SHALL SAM LEFFLER OR SILICON GRAPHICS BE LIABLE FOR
 ANY SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL, INDIRECT OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OF ANY KIND,
 OR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, DATA OR PROFITS,
 WHETHER OR NOT ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF DAMAGE, AND ON ANY THEORY OF 
 LIABILITY, ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE 
 OF THIS SOFTWARE.

 the License text includes the names of the copyright holders: " Sam Leffler 
and Silicon Graphics" .Replacing this specific instance by lets say the SPDX 
template license is a material change.
@ Kevin please correct me if I am wrong

Ciao
Oliver


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                <a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond</a>
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