Yes, that was the type of license I had in mind. These are also some of the
most problematic licenses to match in SPDX tools, for the same reasons.

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Fendt, Oliver <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>
> Hi
>
> Eric wrote:
> Kevin P. Fleming <[email protected]>:
> >> And on the subject of the MIT- annd BSD-style licenses, removing the
> >> license notice which contains the copyright holder(s)' name(s) and
> >> replacing it with an SPDX license identifier is a material change.
>
> >Altering copyrights is a different and much more legally dicey
> proposition than altering licenses.  My code >doesn't touch copyrights.
>
> >Another common misconception, which the SPDX list unfortunately
> encourages, is that the copyright is part of >the license.  It is not; it
> is legally prior to the license and is displayed in association because it
> is the >copyright-holder's authority for imposing the license.
>
>
>
> I think there is a misunderstanding. In my opinion Kevin had the following
> class of licenses in mind, when he made the point:
>
> Permission to use, copy, modify, distribute, and sell this software and
>  its documentation for any purpose is hereby granted without fee, provided
>  that (i) the above copyright notices and this permission notice appear in
>  all copies of the software and related documentation, and (ii) the names
> of
>  Sam Leffler and Silicon Graphics may not be used in any advertising or
>  publicity relating to the software without the specific, prior written
>  permission of Sam Leffler and Silicon Graphics.
>
>  THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS-IS" AND WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND,
>  EXPRESS, IMPLIED OR OTHERWISE, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION, ANY
>  WARRANTY OF MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
>
>  IN NO EVENT SHALL SAM LEFFLER OR SILICON GRAPHICS BE LIABLE FOR
>  ANY SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL, INDIRECT OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OF ANY KIND,
>  OR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, DATA OR PROFITS,
>  WHETHER OR NOT ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF DAMAGE, AND ON ANY THEORY OF
>  LIABILITY, ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE
>  OF THIS SOFTWARE.
>
>  the License text includes the names of the copyright holders: " Sam
> Leffler and Silicon Graphics" .Replacing this specific instance by lets say
> the SPDX template license is a material change.
> @ Kevin please correct me if I am wrong
>
> Ciao
> Oliver
>
>
> --
>                 <a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond</a>
>
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