> My point was about Figleaf bashing something that they 
> still offer paid training for.

I apologize. It wasn't my intent to bash Spectra per se, and I don't speak
for Fig Leaf Software in that regard.

> I like and respect Dave and Steve a great deal, but 
> remember how Figleaf aggressively pushed Spectra to 
> clients when it came out. We were one of those who 
> shelled out money for the product, training and 
> consulting services, based on their glowing 
> recommendations.

Well, to be perfectly honest, the way I see it is that Spectra had the
makings of a potentially great product. To elaborate a bit, I think that for
a product of that complexity, it usually takes a couple of major versions to
get where you really want to go in the long run. When I looked at the
initial version, I thought "this will be really great by, say, version 3".
In that case, it makes sense to start using it, and as it gets better, you
get the benefits of that improvement. At the time, I thought it was as good
or better than competing products, and would be even better in the future.
Of course, that isn't how things worked out, but that was certainly my
expectation at the time.

So, anyway, I'm sorry for making a smart remark off-the-cuff; I just figured
there were enough SiteMinder veterans who felt the same way, I guess.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444

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