We have SCOM and Spectrum.  SCOM is owned by the Windows team for 
consumption by Windows SA's.

Spectrum alarms to windows/linux/unix SA's as well as business folk. 
(Project/Application/Build Managers)

In Spectrum camp: We use VAIM to configure SystemEDGE agent policy files 
on Windows/Solaris/Linux/HPUX. About 2800....    Traps get sent to 
Spectrum, Event Rules apply, I clean up the Event message, and clear 
meaningful alarms get sent to the Service Desk via SOI. (yeah the CA 
quad....)  The advantage here is we have a Push vs Pull monitoring 
solution.  Even a badly overloaded sick machine should be able to limp 
out a trap to Spectrum. Can you poll a hammered machine?

Here SCOM only monitors Prod Windows boxes and they can combine 
thresholds like: "If disk is 95% full AND has less than 300 meg free".  
That is a bit tricky to do in VAIM, but not impossible. Have not tried....

For Unix/Linux log files SCOM must have an SSH agent. I am unfamiliar 
with if they do.  SystemEDGE will scrub a log file on all our 
architectures as configured by VAIM.

Then there is the Topology maps in Spectrum.  I am unfamiliar with what 
SCOM has but I think its safe to say NOBODY can show you what port your 
server is attached to on Switch X like Spectrum.

And then there's the Fault Iso in Spectrum.

SCOM will need the Oracle SQL client and then need to parse the 
output... its likely they are in 2012... dunno.

Same thing Nimsoft is doing, Zenoss as well....


Thanks

-Rob


On 7/2/2014 3:51 PM, Murtey, Patrick wrote:
>
> Hi Jason,
>
> We had Microsoft on site yesterday do a full court press.  They are 
> saying that scom will do basically everything spectrum will do (minus 
> the Fault Isolation) . They say they can manage all flavors of Unix as 
> well using  OMI. Besides the SQL monitoring which is a given, they are 
> also claiming to monitor Oracle as well.  They also say that 2012 will 
> be able to do log monitoring. I am sure NT event logs is a given, but 
> how comprehensive is the third party log monitoring?  They make it 
> sound like there’s no need for 3^rd party agents to monitor logs with 
> 2012.  Anybody else able to provide feedback as well?   By the way  I 
> am referring to Spectrum IM 9.2.3.
>
> Thanks
>
> Patrick
>
> *From:*Jason Hebron [mailto:jason.heb...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 02, 2014 1:33 PM
> *To:* Murtey, Patrick
> *Cc:* spectrum
> *Subject:* Re: [spectrum] scom and spectrum
>
> By Spectrum do you mean the CA IM 2.0 suite?
>
> One of the big questions - what are you wanting to monitor?
>
> For windows systems SCOM is highly effective
>
> For Network Spectrum is close to unbeatable
>
> For Unix/Linux using the correct agents I would use CA IM 2.0
>
> On 3 July 2014 08:18, Murtey, Patrick <pmur...@mgmresorts.com 
> <mailto:pmur...@mgmresorts.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> We are looking for those of you out there that have had experience 
> with scom2012. Can you tell us what the major differences between 
> scom2012 and Spectrum? Like what does one do better than the other? 
> Pros and cons  ( aside from fault isolation, which I don't believe 
> anybody else does) .
>
> Thank you very much
> Patrick
>
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