Hi! if it will be possible to buy the 6x6x6 olympicube somewhere online i will buy 2pieces assuming price is less then $100. If the price is higher i have to consider how much i really need to have 2. Anyhow i'm afraid they won't be around for too long after release and will become collector's items. But i could be wrong also. Maybe it's actually a good idea to have Mefferts or Seventowns/Winning moves take over the manufacturing/distribution of the cube? These companies have quite a solid economy and will assure that the cube can be produced for a prolonged time.
Anyhow i guess that if the cube turns well a single time of less than 3 minutes will be achieved after a while. I can see that might happen with my method if the blocks come up nicely :-) As for parity it pretty much depends on which method u are going to use. Treating edges "singularly" and not as "quedges" or "3x3x3 edges" i will have 2 parities for my method. For the common pairing-up method there will also be 2 parities after all the "quedges" have come together. Getting the last few quedges together might prove quite cumbersome though. I guess one needs to resort to pure 3-cycles or other tricks. A "quedge" can be flipped with the well know algorithm from the 4x4x4 cube simply treating the 6x6x6 cube as a 4x4x4 cube (1-2-2- 1). I hope that should make sense to everyone. This also means there will be algs fixing both parities in one go, again treating the cube 1-2-2-1. What i suspect becomes more cumbersome in general as cube size increases is to find (recognise) edges for pairing up. Again i could be wrong. Just because i find it awkward doesn't mean everyone finds it awkward. Anyhow it will be interesting to see how my method (cage) and the reductionist approach (centers first, pairing up edges) will compare timewise :-) Cheers! -Per > --- In [email protected], cmhardw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is another practical problem. If the cube is expensive, and > replacement parts are not available, what happens if by speedcubing > you break it? > > You would need to make replacement parts if the internals are as > delicate as they sound, and if those are expensive you have a whole > other issue. > > Either way I will buy a 6x6x6 as I hope they hold up for speedcubing. > > Also, will the 10 minute time limit be kept? If so, I imagine not > many people would compete, other than top level big cube people who > have a fast solution with lots of practice. > > The 6x6x6 isn't as open to new people who have just figured it out. I > mean is that just the nature of the puzzle, or should we extend the > time limits? > > Chris > > --- In [email protected], GameOfDeath2 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], Frank Morris > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I imagine, that with time, the record for the 6x6x6 may get to be > around 3 minutes. It > > looks as though the puzzles gain about a minute per solution as the > sizes increase. Just > > my opinion though. As far as the popular solution method for the > larger cubes, I don't > > believe that it gets any less efficient. There is still room for > improvement with that > > method. > > > > > > > There are two problems with this (as a general rule for larger cubes): > > > > 1. The number of pieces increases quadratically with the side > length, not linearly, so it's > > not likely that the times would increase linearly (plus you only > have 2 steps for this basis > > 3->4 and 4->5, unless you can solve the 2x2x2 in negative time!) The > centres are the > > main limiting factor (the quadratic factor) - in the 3x3x3 there are > 6*1^2 centres (but > > nothing to do if not marked) but in the 4x4x4 there are 6*2^2=24 > centres in the 5x5x5 > > there are 6*3^2 centres (48 if you don't count the very centres) but > ther's 6*4^2=96 > > centres in a 6x6x6. This is probably why centres first is often used > on these puzzles. > > There's a higher degree of freedom for the longest part which gives > more speed. The > > edges (linear) and corners (constant) require less time so it's best > to do them with more > > constraints. Doing the centres last puts more constraints on the > largest part of the puzzle. > > > > 2. It is harder to locate pieces. Admittedly, this isn't really an > issue for 6x6x6 - it does > > become an issue in the really big cubes though. Try finding centre > pieces on a cube of size > > 11x11x11 or bigger! This really slows things down on larger cubes. > > > > I'd imagine there's a further problem which is that the cube is > probably less stable and > > more likely to break up/lock up at speed. The pieces will be smaller > and even if the > > overlap problem is solved an increase in the number of slices means > the cube is more > > likely to jam. If each slice is just a little off then things will > build up quicker. This is only a > > problem for physical cubes, not computer cubes (for which the > closest thing is a bad > > mouse) although 1, 2 apply equally to each. > > > > > Douglas Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This talk of potential world > records on 6x6x6 > > cubes reminds me of a > > > conversation I had with Per in Florida at the WC. > > > > > > Do most people who plan on buying 6x6x6 cubes plan on using the same > > > method as they do for smaller cubes (4x4x4 and 5x5x4) on the > 6x6x4? It > > > seems to me that as the cubes get larger, the widely-accepted > > > Centers-Edges-3x3x3-Parity approach gets less and less efficient. > What > > > does everyone else think? > > > > > > Doug > > > > > > Daniel Hayes wrote: > > > > > > >I really think it would be fantastic if we could order some for > > > >Christmas, but that may be a bit too optimistic. Nonetheless, I'm > > > >going to have to get one ASAP. As for times, my gut feeling is to say > > > >that if the cubes turn well, 5 minutes will be hit by many of the top > > > >cubers pretty quickly. Just a quick look at the data suggests > that if > > > >you compare fastest time to number of pieces, then extrapolate the > > > >number of pieces needed to be placed on the 6x6x6 cube, I get that a > > > >world record time may be around 4:02 . I would certainly not be > > > >surprised if this was high though! > > > > > > > >-Daniel > > > > > > > >--- In [email protected], "Koen Heltzel" > > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>Heya, > > > >> > > > >>Looking at Olympic Cubes' site and messages on Twisty it won't take > > > >>very long anymore for the 6x6x6 to be available for the public. > > > >>Personally I'm very excited about trying it out. > > > >>Does anybody has an idea about how it's going to be released? > Will we > > > >>be able to order it off the Olympic Cubes site? > > > >> > > > >>Also will the upcoming tournaments have 6x6x6 events? What will the > > > >>top times be like for the 6x6x6 after say 2 months of it's release? > > > >> > > > >>Discuss :D > > > >> > > > >>Greets, Koen > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! 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