Well, the theory says that many more sequences are required. But, for example, chances for having the 4 middle-layer edges in the middle-layer when starting step 1 are very low ((1x2x3x4)/(5x6x7x8)).
But for other steps, figures are much higher (1/15 for step 3, 1/5 for step 4). I didn't know if you had some strategy to reduce the number of cases, as some people do with Fridrich's last pair to reduce the complexity of the last layer. Gilles. --- In [email protected], "Duncan Dicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Gilles, > A good point Gilles. The way things are at the moment there are alternative > algorithms in step 1 that will kick other middle layer edges down into the > last layer. That takes care of all the cases except the one where all the > middle layer edges start in the middle layer but jumbled. The reason I > haven't spent time on this is because practically I do L2L2 and use other > tricks instead of F2l pairs to make sure it doesn't happen. > Its been a year since I first put up my website though so I am running out > of excuses! If the method is ever going to be as practical as other fast > strategies like your own, Fridrich and Petrus for example I need to upgrade > the website and make sure it copes with every case. When I do this I will > make sure that the most optimal (L2L3) solution goes up too. > > Thanks for pointing out my overenthusiasm! > > Duncan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gilles Roux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 2:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Your own method and algs > > > > > > Hi Duncan, > > > > Does it mean that you now have all the sequences needed for the L2L in > > 4 steps? On your site, I can't see the ones with the unsolved > > middle-layer edge not in the last layer. > > > > Gilles. > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Duncan Dicks" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> Hi DJ, > >> I have all the algorithms for the complete method - its just that I > > havent > >> learned them all yet! Once I'm comfortable and faster with the 35 I > > use now > >> that eliminate OLL I'll move along and learn the last 20 which will > > get rid > >> of PLL. The moves and method are all on my (badly written!) website > >> http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/cubertscubicle > >> > >> Don't know your method so I don't know whether any of these > > algorithms would > >> help. > >> > >> Duncan > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "d_j_salvia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 1:23 AM > >> Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Your own method and algs > >> > >> > >> > Hi Duncan, > >> > > >> > I've got the option of eliminating LL in my method, too. Once I have a > >> > better handle on solving the last 4 corners I can do more work on the > >> > last 5. How far along are you in eliminating LL? > >> > > >> > DJ > >> > > >> > --- In [email protected], "Duncan Dicks" > >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Use my own method (L2L) but at the moment with PLL algorithms at > >> > least some > >> >> of which are other peoples. When I eventually use the full method > >> > it won't > >> >> have the PLLs in it. > >> >> > >> >> Duncan > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: "d_j_salvia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> To: <[email protected]> > >> >> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 5:40 PM > >> >> Subject: [Speed cubing group] Your own method and algs > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Hi Everyone, > >> >> > > >> >> > Is there anyone here who uses their own method and uses only > > their own > >> >> > algorithms? Or is everyone here using other's methods and > > algorithms? > >> >> > > >> >> > What percentage of the algorithms you use that you didn't learn > > from > >> >> > others, but developed yourself? > >> >> > > >> >> > David J > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Yahoo! Groups Links > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/MXMplB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
