Hi all, Though I rarely pop, I disagree with not allowing pops. This means that faster cubers will have to focus more on not poping than they will on actually speeding. They will be much less likely to get a record average or time because they are worried about popping.
Just my opinion. :) Peter Greenwood PS: Sorry about the double post. Stupid enter key! --- In [email protected], Tyson Mao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Haha, I remember that too. It was certainly most impressive. Macky > was trying to do 12 solves without a pop because we thought about > putting that type of record into the record books. (We've gotten rid > of it... it's too long!) Anyway, he went into the competition saying > that he wasn't going to pop at all, and the piece flies out, and we're > all sitting behind the judge's table, Mark and I, and we're thinking to > ourselves, what's he doing? Why didn't he take the pop? > > That was one midair leap short of a glorious day. > > Tyson Mao > MSC #631 > California Institute of Technology > > On Dec 24, 2005, at 5:25 AM, thomkirjava wrote: > > > Indeed, I remember macky's sub-20 pop, that was amazing :) > > > > ~Thom > > > > --- In [email protected], Tyson Mao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Dan, > >> > >> If popping is of no fault of the competitors, then logically one would > >> award infinite number of pops no? On a less serious note, I think the > >> elimination of popping will increase the amount of action during a > >> competition. In cup stacking, (darn cups), if you knock over a stack, > >> you have to fix it before you can proceed, which means if a cup flies > >> off the table, into the audience, bounces of someone's head, lands in > >> a > >> suitcase, and ends up on a plane to Moldova, you better be ready to > >> run > >> through Eastern Europe. > >> > >> Just imagine the spectacular dives for pieces as Leyan pops (even > >> though he never does), the piece flies through the air in the > >> auditorium, he leaps off the stage, catches the piece, fixes it in > >> midair, and then falls asleep in midair? > >> > >> A glorious day indeed! > >> > >> Tyson Mao > >> MSC #631 > >> California Institute of Technology > >> > >> On Dec 24, 2005, at 4:15 AM, Dan wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Tyson, > >>> > >>> I really object to the idea of not allowing POP's. I'm not 100% sure > >>> of the reasoning behind this rule, but I assume it's to prevent > >>> people from abusing it (ie when you have a bad solve you > >>> deliberately force a piece). But let's be honest, how many of the > >>> top20 solvers in the world have ever needed to/wanted to commit this > >>> offence? Maybe I'm being ridiculously too trusting, but it just > >>> doesn't seem to be a problem as far as I can see. I really really > >>> can't see any of the top guys who can already solve in <15 secs > >>> average being selfish enough to force the cube. And also, not > >>> allowing a POP could completely ruin a competitors chance of winning > >>> a title. A genuine POP is not the fault of the competitor at all, > >>> and yet the new rule would be punishing them, since it completely > >>> changes the approach to solving the cube. You don't want to risk > >>> anything, especially if your cube is not quite as stable as other > >>> competitors cubes. SO it also means that if you have a poorer cube > >>> you are less likely to have a chance of making 5 solves! AND of > >>> course, after you have POPped once, it's very unlikely that you > >>> could recover it and beat someone who hasn't POPped, if you didn't > >>> get the extra solve. I'm sorry for not putting my case very > >>> succinctly, but hopefully you can see I feel quite passionately > >>> about this rule change. I think the reasons for not changing the POP > >>> rule far outweigh the reason for changing it. > >>> > >>> As regards the other rules, especially making all averages out of 5, > >>> I am fully in favour of :) > >>> > >>> Per, Tyson, I am also in favour of allowing stickers in Fewest Moves > >>> Competitions. Just as speedcubers are allowed to use a variety of > >>> techniques, (some might use a corners first method, others might use > >>> Fridrich, and ChrisH might be using ZB), even though those who > >>> aren't using a particular technique might know nothing about it and > >>> not be able to use it in their solves. So not allowing stickers > >>> because it gives people an advantage over those who don't know how > >>> to use stickers to their advantage is not a valid reason I think (if > >>> that is indeed the reason for not allowing stickers, again i > >>> slightly assumed I think). If competitors would supply their own > >>> equipment, then I can't see any reason for not allowing stickers or > >>> sticker equivalents. > >>> > >>> Thanks for listening, > >>> > >>> DanH :) - www.cubestation.co.uk > >>> > >>> --- In [email protected], Tyson Mao <[EMAIL > >>> PROTECTED]> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi Everyone, > >>>> > >>>> For all competitions in 2006, we will be making the following > >>> changes > >>>> in the regulations: > >>>> > >>>> 1. No POPs will be allowed. The competitor will not be awarded > >>> an > >>>> extra solve if there is a puzzle defect during the solve. > >>>> > >>>> 2. Record standards for 3x3x3 OH, 4x4x4, and 5x5x5 will be > >>> Average of > >>>> 5. The current world records set in the format of Mean of 3 will > >>> stand > >>>> for six months to allow time for the current world record holders > >>> to > >>>> retake their world records under the new format. > >>>> > >>>> Note: In blindfold cubing, +2 penalties are awarded. > >>>> > >>>> Thank you! Please let us know if there are any major objections. > >>>> > >>>> Tyson Mao > >>>> World Cube Association > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/MXMplB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! 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