Sub-60s is definitely possible with a 4-look LL. I used to solve with a 4-look LL and didn't really bother learning more LL algorithms until I got my average under 60s.
It's possible to go much faster than 60s with 4-look LL. I've seen people do 30s solves with a 4-look LL! Are you solving with F2L pairs? If not then I'd advise that would be a very valuable next step. F2L pairs are not that difficult to work out on your own and they'll really improve your solve times once you get the hang of them. BTW, re working stuff out on your own (just referring to another discussion string on the group), I feel pretty strongly about this with regard to the F2L. Even now I never use an F2L trick unless I understand exactly how it works. :) Jasmine http://speedcuber.blogspot.com On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 21:06:50 -0800 (PST), "David Pritts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Are you sure? It seems like it would be absolutely ridiculous to > cut down the time that much. Even if I did no thinking or > looking at the cube at all, but instead just always knew exactly > which algorithm to use instantly, I think the way I'm doing it > now would still take over a minute... > > any other thoughts? > > And even so, I'll eventually want to start getting more > advanced and using some of the methods that you guys use... the > methods which allow you to do cubes in 20 seconds. > > For the time being, I'm looking for any methods which are > slightly faster than my current method, but I'd rather not try > to learn any of the hardest methods first. > > Let me know.. thanks! > > David > > ----------------------- > > thebunze wrote: > with that method you use now, you could get less than 60 seconds > > David Pritts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey -- Jason, you > said that I should learn the ROUx method... so you recommend > just going to [1]http://grrroux.free.fr/method/Intro.html and > learning the method there? > > I am just getting to the point where I can solve the cube > consistently without having to look at any references (thanks to > the help provided by many of you who have answered my questions > in the past few days). My method is: > -Solve first 2 layers > -Solve the cross of the bottom layer > -Get the LL corners in the right place > -Get the LL corners rotated correctly > -Switch any incorrect corners > > I am starting to get pretty good at this, but I know there is > little I can do besides getting faster with my algorithms and > cutting down time doing the first layer. I can do it in about 4 > minutes usually, but I want to start learning more advanced > methods. > > I'm not looking to be the best cuber ever or anything, but I > would like to at least get my average down to 90 seconds or 2 > minutes. > > What are the most common methods that you guys use, how > difficult are they to learn and use, and how fast are they? > > thanks!! > > -David > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > [2]http://mail.yahoo.com > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ___________________________________________________________ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group "[3]speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the [5]Yahoo! Terms > of Service. > ___________________________________________________________ > > References > > 1. http://grrroux.free.fr/method/Intro.html > 2. http://mail.yahoo.com/ > 3. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube > 4. > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 5. http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
