Hello Everyone mike, thanks for the encouragement. i read your post and wondered about f2b
10.78, 12.87, 12.31, (23.53), 12.99, 12.65, 18.17, 12.94, 11.17, 11.41, 13.18, (10.68) AVG 12.85 This is a pretty good improvement, but i wont be happy until i'm sub 10. On the 23.53, I had a really bad first b. For the 2nd block, i did both pairs first and then FORCED myself to do a new alg Gilles showed me. R' U' R2 U R2 U' R' y M' U2 M y' Ur'R'UM'U'R2 The last one is Gilles' Which one do you guys use? And Question 2, do you guys use (U R r M) only for B2? I almost exclusively use these subsets for B2. Because of this, I usually use the first algorithm Question 3. if you learn CLL or COLL instead of CMLL, then you dont have to have the cube oriented for step 3. In this case I think the 2nd alg is the best, b/c you don't have to do the last y'. Do you guys do Y rotations during F2B? i dont. Jason K --- In [email protected], "thomkirjava" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah, I agree with you mike, CMLL isn't everything. I broke the 25avg > barrier by just optimising how I did my F2B. Now I'm after sub-20 :) I > find that CMLL sometimes slows me down, as I know 60% of it, but I'm > not 'fluent' with every case I know yet. > > I think the F2B is the most important part, then comes LSEC and then > CMLL :) Well, that in ordedr of how much I think I could improve each > bit :) > > Thanks, Thom. > > --- In [email protected], "Mike Bennett" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "kovacic81" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > Although it isn't a staggering figure, it is my first sub 25 avg with > > > ROUX. > > > > > > (19.97), 24.64, 20.55, 22.49, 24.03, (31.84), 28.37, 25.84, 24.72, > > > 25.87, 25.92, 26.79 AVG 24.92 > > > > > > I still use a 2 step process for Corners. Once i learn CLL, these > > > times will drop substantially. > > > > > > Jason k > > > > Way to go, Jason! It's good to see someone having success with > > something that isn't Fridrich. I've been working more on my variation > > for step 4 where you first place DB as you orient edges, and then > > permute the L5E. So far, it's very much like learning ZB. Right now, > > my average with pure Roux is around 20, but my normal average this way > > is about 22. My best times are 15.0x this way (non lucky), though, so > > it has very good spike times. I expect this number to grow > > substantially once I learn more algs. > > > > One strategy I'm experimenting with that could be useful to you (or > > other Roux solvers) is learning both COLL and CLL. This would allow > > you O6E skips twice as often, and give you the three edges orientation > > for the majority of the rest of solves. > > > > Also, I've been trying to recognize the orientation before the end of > > step 2. If you save either the DL or DR edge piece for last, you can > > use it to help influence orientation to your liking. If you have a > > corner edge pair for last, you can use those too, with some intuitive > > ZBF2L. This is a little harder, but will be more useful in the end. > > > > That said, learning one step algs for corners is going to help your > > times, but not all that much. The F2B and L6E steps are much more > > important. You can get very good times still using only two step algs > > for the corners. > > > > Learning to use unconstrained centers and the special cases for step 4 > > will probably get you farther in the end than CLL. I say in the end > > because those are probably going to take a long time to get used to, > > but they will be worth it. > > > > Keep up the good work, and keep us posted! > > > > -Mike > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
