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--- In [email protected], Rune Wesström
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> From: "Joël van Noort" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 2:59 PM
> Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation
>
>
> He means the Person/Action/Object technique, which he described in
> the BLD yahoo group:
>
> http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/blindfoldsolving-rubiks-
> cube/message/985
>
>
>
> - Joël.
>
> --- In [email protected], Rune Wesström
> <rune.wesstrom@> wrote:
> >
> > What is P/A/O technique?
> > (And maybe you shouldn´t forget mr Pochmann).
> > R
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "JohnLouis Louis" <pjlmem@>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 2:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation
> >
> >
> > You are perfectly correct Joel, in my opinion. I like to clarify
> one more point here.
> > First of all, it is only a beginning. To focus your attention
in
> the initial period of learning to memorise a cube you are
> transforming the information. With more practice, slowly you will
be
> able to focus your attention when you are memorising without
> transforming the information. Only experience will tell you that.
> > I think some of you like Leyan, Tyson, Macky, David Orser,
Jean
> Pons and Chris Hardwick are all able to focus their attention and
> able to memorise without transforming and more importantly able to
> retain those ABSTRACT, INTANGIBLE information until they complete
> solving the cube. If you have already reached that stage, that is
> good. Still I strongly believe, once you master the P/A/O
technique,
> it will be faster than the rote memorising.
> >
> > Secondly, By applying P/A/O method combined with a journey,
you
> can memorise any number of cubes and solve them blindfolded. I
don't
> think it is possible by rote memory or atleast P/A/O method will
be
> faster than rote memory.
> > Has anyone using rote memory to memorise the cube, tried multi-
> cubes blindfolded except David Orser ? I don't know which
> memorisation technique David used for his 10 cubes BLD.
> >
> > John Louis
> >
> >
> > Joël van Noort <joel_vn@> wrote:
> > Hello Ryan,
> >
> > That is very good important question! I while ago, I have been
> > trying to memorise the corners of the cube visually, and that
> seemed
> > to work fine... I always thought that making up big stories and
> > images in your head was something for people that can't memorise
> > very well. :). But now I found out that people that memorise a
> deck
> > of cards in under a minute also use techniques like this, and it
> > doesn't have to mean you are wasting time at all...
> >
> > So how can that work? Why is it interesting to transform the
> > information into a story with things that don't have anything to
> do
> > with cubing?
> >
> > Well, as for the method I am trying to learn now, (person,
action
> > and object method): when you are memorising, you are memorising
> > things that the human brain is used to. All your life, you have
> been
> > storing memories with people that you know well, that are doing
> > things. That's just what your brain can automatically do.
Storing
> > images of people doing things in you head is more 'natural' ;)
for
> > the brain to deal with than a bunch of positions on a cube.
That's
> > why I think it will be feasable to use this system. (John Louis,
> am
> > I right?).
> >
> > - Joël.
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Ryan Heise
> > <rheise@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've been reading the various threads about memorisation, and
> have
> > to
> > > wonder what is appealing about translating information from
one
> > domain
> > > into a completely unrelated domain in order to memorise it.
> > >
> > > We have discussed memorising a cube using numbers, sentences
and
> > cards.
> > > Why not memorise the direct visual imagery that we get by
> looking
> > at the
> > > cube? With training it should be possible to form memory
> > associations
> > > based on the spatial relativity of same-coloured facelets, and
> > observe
> > > shape outlines formed by these sets of facelets. This is how
our
> > brains
> > > are natively wired to perform visual analysis, anyway.
> > >
> > > By the way, a sequence of 4 random chords (4 notes each)
> > constrained to
> > > a range of just 2 octaves, contains more data than a single
> random
> > cube
> > > position (if you only care about the data that allows you to
> solve
> > the
> > > cube). If you can see visual patterns to the same extent that
> > musicians
> > > hear auditory patterns, then a single random cube shouldn't
take
> > more
> > > than a few seconds to memorise.
> > >
> > > Ryan
> > >
> >
> >
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