On 3/23/06, David Pritts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not much better than you, but I think the following site helped me a lot: > > > http://www.snkenjoi.com/wikicube/mediawiki-1.5.3/index.php?title=Intuitive_F2L
Thanks. Haven't seen that wiki before. I'll check it out. > I have been working on it for around a month now (or so?) and am really > just now starting to understand how to do it well, and my times are finally > decreasing a lot from where they were when I used layer-by-layer method. Okay. I think that I'm at a stage now where when I'm solving using the few F2L algos that I've got in my head, I'm about the same when it comes to speed as with the old LBL method. This is only due to some inspection overhead, which I'm hoping to get rid of real soon :) > I also have a sheet with the 41 algs, and they help a LOT to show you how > to do it efficiently. Once you get the basics down of intuitive F2L, start > using the alg sheet and understanding how it works. Yea. At first I had the sheet nearby, and successively corrected how I was doing things, but maybe it's better to let the intuitive F2L sink in a bit, then match it with the "optimal" F2L. Thanks a lot for your advice. Aron > kirk83616 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Welcome, Aron > > I tried that method (printing out the F2L algs and looking at the > sheet as I did them). everyone learns differently, but for me that > didn't help because there were just too many and I just got > confused. better approach for me was to learn a few at a time and > also explore intuitively so I understood what the alg does. Also > helpful is meeting up with other cubers to learn from them directly-- > don't know where you are, but these days it seems odds are good > there's another cuber somewhere relatively close. > > I don't know all of the algs, but I know enough for where I'm at as > a cuber. If you learn a handful really well, and you get a case for > an alg you don't know yet, with very little practice you can usually > manipulate it rather easily into a case for which you do know the > alg. [I suppose that could be viewed as knowing an alg for that > case, just not an optimal alg]. > > Good luck! > --Kirk > > --- In [email protected], "Aron Stansvik" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hello cubeheads! > > > > This is my first mail to the list, I just joined yesterday. I'm 22 > > years old and solved the cube for the first time a few months ago, > > using a beginner layer-by-layer method. I haven't started my > > speedcubing carrier very intensively, just cubing a little here and > > there, so my average is around 60 seconds, still with the beginner > > method. > > > > Recently I started looking at improving my cross speed, solving the > > cross in D and the Fridrich F2L algos. If any of you wickedly fast > out > > there can remember what it was like when you first learned the F2L, > > and have any tips/suggestions et.c. you're more than welcome to > share > > them with me. > > > > At first I started with having the algos for the 41 cases beside > me, > > printed on a piece of paper.. But the last couple of days I'm > starting > > to think that it's better to work out them out intuitively. What > was > > your approach? Trying to figure them out by myself, it feels as if > I > > learn them better, as if they "stick" better in my head, but I'm > > worried that often I make unneccessary moves, that could fast turn > > into a bad habit. > > > > Anyway, glad I found this fine sport. It kills off time when I'm > > sitting in my bookshop with no customers ;) > > > > I'm sure there are more questions for this list that I've thought > of, > > but can't remember at the moment. > > > > Best regards, > > Aron Stansvik > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, > low rates. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
