On 3/24/06, kirk83616 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > both get the job done, but have different effect on the OLL edges. > I'm trying to pay attention to this as I insert the last F2L pair to > anticipate (and manipulate) what kind of OLL I'll end up with, but > that's about where I'm at as a cuber.
I just realized that. Maybe I'll try to practice with both to keep me fast on either of them until the day when I start to worry about Fridrich OLL/PLL (just using a couple of simple algos at the moment). Aron > --- In [email protected], "Aron Stansvik" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Oh I forgot one question I meant to ask. When I'm inserting the F2L > > pair, I seem to do it not like what is normally described. For > > instance: U R U' R' .. when I do: R' F R F'.. Is there something > > inherently better with the first approach? Maybe I'm holding the > cube > > a bit differently.. > > > > Aron > > > > On 3/23/06, kirk83616 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Welcome, Aron > > > > > > I tried that method (printing out the F2L algs and looking at the > > > sheet as I did them). everyone learns differently, but for me > that > > > didn't help because there were just too many and I just got > > > confused. better approach for me was to learn a few at a time > and > > > also explore intuitively so I understood what the alg does. Also > > > helpful is meeting up with other cubers to learn from them > directly-- > > > don't know where you are, but these days it seems odds are good > > > there's another cuber somewhere relatively close. > > > > > > I don't know all of the algs, but I know enough for where I'm at > as > > > a cuber. If you learn a handful really well, and you get a case > for > > > an alg you don't know yet, with very little practice you can > usually > > > manipulate it rather easily into a case for which you do know the > > > alg. [I suppose that could be viewed as knowing an alg for that > > > case, just not an optimal alg]. > > > > > > Good luck! > > > --Kirk > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Aron Stansvik" > > > <elvstone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello cubeheads! > > > > > > > > This is my first mail to the list, I just joined yesterday. > I'm 22 > > > > years old and solved the cube for the first time a few months > ago, > > > > using a beginner layer-by-layer method. I haven't started my > > > > speedcubing carrier very intensively, just cubing a little > here and > > > > there, so my average is around 60 seconds, still with the > beginner > > > > method. > > > > > > > > Recently I started looking at improving my cross speed, > solving the > > > > cross in D and the Fridrich F2L algos. If any of you wickedly > fast > > > out > > > > there can remember what it was like when you first learned the > F2L, > > > > and have any tips/suggestions et.c. you're more than welcome to > > > share > > > > them with me. > > > > > > > > At first I started with having the algos for the 41 cases > beside > > > me, > > > > printed on a piece of paper.. But the last couple of days I'm > > > starting > > > > to think that it's better to work out them out intuitively. > What > > > was > > > > your approach? Trying to figure them out by myself, it feels > as if > > > I > > > > learn them better, as if they "stick" better in my head, but > I'm > > > > worried that often I make unneccessary moves, that could fast > turn > > > > into a bad habit. > > > > > > > > Anyway, glad I found this fine sport. It kills off time when > I'm > > > > sitting in my bookshop with no customers ;) > > > > > > > > I'm sure there are more questions for this list that I've > thought > > > of, > > > > but can't remember at the moment. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Aron Stansvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
