On 3/24/06, kirk83616 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > definitely practice just the algs you're working on over and over, > and their reverses (and the inverse and its reverse if applicable). > often the reverse, or set up moves, is an alg you're going to want > to know anyway, esp. in OLL and PLL, though sometimes they can > differ from what you'll do with the other case. i.e., when I'm > practicing some new OLL algs, start with solved cube, do an OLL alg > you know and you're left with a different OLL case (call it the > first OLL's pair). you can do those moves in reverse order to get > back to solved and again to set up the OLL case you know, or if you > know a different OLL alg for the pair, just do that alg 2x, then the > first one's alg 2x and you can get some good practice on just those > algs.
That's a great idea! Come to think of it, I think I sometimes trained OLL/PLL algos that I actually know that way, back when I first learned them. They're only a few so far though, trying to focus on F2L. > also helpful for me was to not even look at the cube (hold it under > your desk), and see how fast you can do the algs over and over again > several times, then look at the cube at the end to make sure you did > it right. I'll try it out. > I know I'm not alone in saying I find it helpful to sometimes just > focus on F2L algs over and over again (and later OLL, PLL, etc.). > and then put it all together for some solves. Yes, I'm not doing any LL at the moment, just a few solves here and there for good spirit :) > good luck Is it really luck? hehe :) Aron > --- In [email protected], "Aron Stansvik" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 3/23/06, kirk83616 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Welcome, Aron > > > > > > I tried that method (printing out the F2L algs and looking at the > > > sheet as I did them). everyone learns differently, but for me > that > > > didn't help because there were just too many and I just got > > > confused. better approach for me was to learn a few at a time > and > > > also explore intuitively so I understood what the alg does. Also > > > helpful is meeting up with other cubers to learn from them > directly-- > > > don't know where you are, but these days it seems odds are good > > > there's another cuber somewhere relatively close. > > > > Okay. When learning just a few of the algorithms, do you train them > > "back and forth", i.e. doing them and then doing their reverse and > so > > on? Or is that a bad way to practice? Should I just cube along and > if > > one of the cases I'm training comes up, I'll do the algorithm, and > if > > it's another case I'll solve it using my old layer-by-layer method? > > This is what I'm doing now. > > > > I'm in Sweden, and I had plans to go to the Swedish Championships > last > > week, to meet some other cubers for the first time, but I'd forgot > > that I was booked up that weekend. I'll be going to Chalmers Open > > though, also here in Sweden. > > > > > I don't know all of the algs, but I know enough for where I'm at > as > > > a cuber. If you learn a handful really well, and you get a case > for > > > an alg you don't know yet, with very little practice you can > usually > > > manipulate it rather easily into a case for which you do know the > > > alg. [I suppose that could be viewed as knowing an alg for that > > > case, just not an optimal alg]. > > > > Yea, pretty often I can do that, or I can resort to doing what I > did > > using the layer-by-layer method, though that doesn't really count, > as > > the side is not layed down simultaneously with the corner :) > > > > > Good luck! > > > > Thanks! > > > > Aron > > > > PS. Do people want to also be Cc:d messages to the list? Different > > lists have different rules. DS. > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Aron Stansvik" > > > <elvstone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello cubeheads! > > > > > > > > This is my first mail to the list, I just joined yesterday. > I'm 22 > > > > years old and solved the cube for the first time a few months > ago, > > > > using a beginner layer-by-layer method. I haven't started my > > > > speedcubing carrier very intensively, just cubing a little > here and > > > > there, so my average is around 60 seconds, still with the > beginner > > > > method. > > > > > > > > Recently I started looking at improving my cross speed, > solving the > > > > cross in D and the Fridrich F2L algos. If any of you wickedly > fast > > > out > > > > there can remember what it was like when you first learned the > F2L, > > > > and have any tips/suggestions et.c. you're more than welcome to > > > share > > > > them with me. > > > > > > > > At first I started with having the algos for the 41 cases > beside > > > me, > > > > printed on a piece of paper.. But the last couple of days I'm > > > starting > > > > to think that it's better to work out them out intuitively. > What > > > was > > > > your approach? Trying to figure them out by myself, it feels > as if > > > I > > > > learn them better, as if they "stick" better in my head, but > I'm > > > > worried that often I make unneccessary moves, that could fast > turn > > > > into a bad habit. > > > > > > > > Anyway, glad I found this fine sport. It kills off time when > I'm > > > > sitting in my bookshop with no customers ;) > > > > > > > > I'm sure there are more questions for this list that I've > thought > > > of, > > > > but can't remember at the moment. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Aron Stansvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! 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