OK, I'm not getting the ioctl problem any more, and I even get a response to ifconfig 
ppp0 now, but I still can't connect to anything in the great wide world outside my 
laptop. What I do have is a /var/log/daemons/info log FULL of 
rcvd [LCP confRej id=0xd7 <auth chap MD5> <magic 0x2c9f8ec2>]
sent [LCP ConfRej id=0xd7 <auth chap MD5>]

only the id changes...

also, the ifconfig tells me
<snip>
RX packets:0 erros:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:3
<snip>

I'm dreading the idea of having to back out my upgrade... I'm sure I've seen people 
say that they've gotten Mandrake 8.2 working with the drivers before!

-sterling 


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