Roland, not in our state. An unlicensed owner is limited when it comes to sprinkler installations. He can do small alterations and repairs but not a full blown system install. Not saying that some don't do it all themselves. If no one is looking over their shoulder, who's to know. But you can usually tell when as a licensed contractor you walk around the area and see the errors jumping out everywhere. You quickly learn not to ask the owner "what idiot put this mess in?"
Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection Group Mechanical Department CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lg.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland Huggins Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Testing there is a fine point you are missing. The OWNER of a PRIVATE facility is typically allowed to do as much of their own work as they want to. It's when you hire out to do work for someone else that licensing enters the equation. Roland On Jan 10, 2007, at 12:29 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chris, Kansas isn't alone on that. I have a project in a nearby > state. > The owner wanted to do the installation himself. He has mechanics > that know how to use a pipe wrench. (this guy wanted a detail on his > drawings of how to install an upright head, yes we are in > trouble.......) > > Anyway, when I called the state board of licensure and asked the lady > if you had to be specifically licensed to install sprinkler systems > her words were, "that's a good question, I don't know", so she passed > me off to her department manager, who obviously read from the same > script > because he said the same thing. Seems in their state and local > municipality don't require permits or system inspections and so anyone > can install it. > > There is no consistency in the laws concerning licensing. > > Craig L. Prahl, CET > Fire Protection Group > Mechanical Department > CH2MHILL > Lockwood Greene > 1500 International Drive > PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - > 864.599.8439 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lg.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris > Brown > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:17 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Testing > > In the state of Kansas all you need is transportation to the site it > even could be by mass transit and you can work on any type of fire > protection system. Wichita has some requirements and Kansas City > Missouri has a sprinkler contractors license requirement but other > than that any one can work on any fire protection system. We have > plumbers installing sprinkler systems and electricians installing fire > alarm system. They don't even know what NFPA is. > > > Thank you, > > Chris Brown > Fire Protection Designer, Poole Fire Protection > Office: 913.829.8650 Direct: 913.747.2056 Cell: 913.208.3600 > Fax: > 913.829.8690 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregg > Fontes > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 1:56 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Testing > > Does a C-10 and/or electrical/alarm contractors license allow them to > contract the testing of water base fire protection systems? (I.E. > opening inspectors test valves, operating control valves, testing of > Pre-action/Deluge/Dry systems, generally can they operate any > component of a fire sprinkler system that has an alarm affiliated with > it?) > > Gregg Fontes > Cen-Cal Fire Systems, Inc. > 209-334-9119 > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
