Thanks for pointing out that section of the code (actually we are using 1999 version and it's section 2-2.1.2).
As for plastic filters, we will need to consider this item and ask the owner. Thanks for pointing that out. Richard K. Lindner Plumbing Senior Designer Morris, Johnson & Associates, Inc. 611 Industrial Way West Eatontown, New Jersey 07724 P: 732-380-1100 ext. 4186 | F: 732-380-1111 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.morrisjohnson.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom L Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 3:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Determining a Warehouse Commodity Classification Rich, "belts, hoses" "There are filters, including fuel, oil, air, water, and hydraulic types, all sizes and shapes." Any plastic filters?? How much of the above? Remember NFPA 13, 2002, section 5.6.1.2.3, mixed commodities u are allowed 10 pallet loads in a 40K whse, u half this amount so u are now at 4-5 pallet loads. More then 5 and u have to protect the ENTIRE whse at the higher commodity. IF u design for a class 2 commodity, now u are allowed 2 pallet loads! see (3) in the NFPA section above. This material could be classified as a Grp A Plastic. Regards Tom LaCorte Chubb Insurance Check out our web site for hands- on fire protection training. http://www.chubb.com/businesses/service/chubb5999.html >From: "Jeff Hewitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: Determining a Warehouse Commodity Classification >Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 13:56:56 -0600 > >You mentioned wood crates. You did not mention if there are any pallets >involved. If there are any plastic pallets involved you may have to >increase the commodity class. > > > >Jeff Hewitt, PE, SET, SFPE (Prof. Member) >Corporate Engineer >Bi-State Fire Protection Corporation >636-946-0011 >636-946-5172 (FAX) > >This e-mail and any attachments are CONFIDENTIAL and may be protected by >one or more legal privileges. 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The shelving itself is wire decking. > >The center part of the building has some administrative area offices and >other storage areas (no shelving shown). The other end of the building is >a maintenance garage for repairs of vehicles. > >We have asked about what they intend to store on the shelving and have been >told that primarily they are storing spare machinery parts, some of which >are in wood crates; these are small, medium, large and very large. These >include hydraulic cylinders, engines, transmissions, radiators, air >chambers, pumps, belts, hoses, fittings, nuts, bolts (small items are in >cardboard boxes in most cases), and tools (both power and non-power tools). >Aerosol cans include brake cleaner, starting fluid, lubricant (WD-40), >window cleaner, and paint. They carry no more than two cases (24 cans) of >each item in stock. There are filters, including fuel, oil, air, water, >and hydraulic types, all sizes and shapes. They also store spare >pre-charged batteries. 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