I agree.  Unfortunately, the standard isn't written that way, the project
wasn't bid that way, and the owner doesn't want the expense or
inconvenience of running 600' of 4" pipe above existing ceilings in his
functioning medical building.

Now if someone were to write a proposal for the next edition of 13 . . .


Ed Kramer
Littleton, CO


>From an AHJ point of view more than one FDC on a Building that only
>supplies
>a portion of that building is always a bad idea. Late at night, maybe
>snowing they drive up to the building, see an FDC, but the strobe or water
>motor above it isn't flashing or making a sound. They have the right
>address, even if no smoke or flame is visible, they will still hook up to
>it
>before entering the building, guessing that the strobe is broken or water
>motor broken. Now we've put them at risk, because they don't have time to
>drive all the way around the building to see if there is another strobe
>flashing somewhere, or another FDC.
>
>This is just a bad idea!
>
>Thom McMahon
>Firetech, Inc.
>2560 Copper Ridge Dr
>Steamboat Springs, CO 80488-2136
>Tel: 970-879-7952
>Fax: 970-879-7926
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ed Kramer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 2:27 PM
>Subject: FDC's on multiple systems
>
>
>> Run into something new that I need opinions on.
>>
>> An addition is being added to an existing building.  Existing building
>is
>> fully sprinklered.  The total area of the combined existing and new
>> structure exceeds 52,000 sf and the existing system riser is in the far
>> corner away from the addition.  So the decision was made to bring in a
>new
>> underground supply to serve the new addition.  Thus the new addition
>will
>> have its own independent system riser and fire department connection.
>>
>> Does 2002 NFPA 13 section 8.16.l2.4.3 (or any other section) require the
>> two FDCs (one existing, one new) be tied together?
>>
>> The commentary hints at this, but I've never thought that was the
>intent.
>> I thought the intent was that multiple systems SERVED BY THE SAME
>> UNDERGROUND LEAD-IN be served by the same FDC.  Section 8.16.2.4.5 seams
>> to
>> support this.
>>
>> Opinions?
>>
>> Ed Kramer
>> Littleton, CO
>>
>>
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