That is why if there are multiple risers it just works out best to
provide a single FDC at the backflow or at some designated point on the
UG system if it's a private loop, but if the building is large enough to
warrant multiple risers but is fed from a municipal system, then a
common FDC or FDC tied together is not practical.   Signage at risers
and a good walkthrough of the facility with the local FD is about the
best that can be done.  Running hundreds of feet of pipe inside the
building between risers to connect FDC's is just a bit over the top.  


Craig L. Prahl, CET
Fire Protection Group
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thom
McMahon
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 7:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: FDC's on multiple systems

>From an AHJ point of view more than one FDC on a Building that only 
>supplies
a portion of that building is always a bad idea. Late at night, maybe
snowing they drive up to the building, see an FDC, but the strobe or
water motor above it isn't flashing or making a sound. They have the
right address, even if no smoke or flame is visible, they will still
hook up to it before entering the building, guessing that the strobe is
broken or water motor broken. Now we've put them at risk, because they
don't have time to drive all the way around the building to see if there
is another strobe flashing somewhere, or another FDC.

This is just a bad idea!

Thom McMahon
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488-2136
Tel: 970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Kramer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 2:27 PM
Subject: FDC's on multiple systems


> Run into something new that I need opinions on.
>
> An addition is being added to an existing building.  Existing building
is
> fully sprinklered.  The total area of the combined existing and new
> structure exceeds 52,000 sf and the existing system riser is in the
far
> corner away from the addition.  So the decision was made to bring in a
new
> underground supply to serve the new addition.  Thus the new addition
will
> have its own independent system riser and fire department connection.
>
> Does 2002 NFPA 13 section 8.16.l2.4.3 (or any other section) require
the
> two FDCs (one existing, one new) be tied together?
>
> The commentary hints at this, but I've never thought that was the
intent.
> I thought the intent was that multiple systems SERVED BY THE SAME
> UNDERGROUND LEAD-IN be served by the same FDC.  Section 8.16.2.4.5
seams 
> to
> support this.
>
> Opinions?
>
> Ed Kramer
> Littleton, CO
>
>
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