This can be further highlighted by showcasing the numerous projects done and donated at local levels by our industry; donations of systems and design to Habitat, other families in need.., etc. There are many who give without hesitation, and seek no recognition. (Which is good too) And let's not forget the CPSC's statement that absence of sprinklers increase the risk of lost life....
R/ Matt Matthew J. Willis Living Water Fire Protection, LLC. 1160 McKenzie Rd. Cantonment, FL. 32533 850-937-1850 Voice 850-937-1852 Facsimile ----- >-----Original Message----- ----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On ----- >Behalf Of George Church ----- >Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 4:35 AM ----- >To: [email protected] ----- >Subject: RE: Fwd: Schirmer Engineering ----- > ----- >Steve, I understand there are numerous reasons why AFSA ----- >and NFSA don't merge into a united association for the ----- >industry. But hopefully this might be an opportunity to ----- >present a united front to the public, and enlist the aid ----- >of others (without as much financial interest) by ----- >developing a response presented by a group of others in ----- >the industry- ----- > ----- >Would it be feasible to have a press release or other ----- >announcement put together stating that this FPE's ----- >comments absolutely do not reflect the reality of fact, ----- >and have it signed by a coalition of industry groups such ----- >as: AFSA, NFSA, SFPE, IAFF, NFPA, SFMs, ICC, and ok, I ----- >see I'm dreaming. ----- > ----- >Just wanted to plant the seed, see if it is possible to ----- >reduce appearance of $ interests, and have it be a ----- >larger face talking than just a series of smaller salvos. ----- > ----- >Glc ----- >Bc- you're right and it needs to be addressed publicly ----- >as a FP industry response, not just from groups of spkr ----- >contractors lest we look like ----- >moneygrubbers ourselves. ----- > ----- > ----- >-----Original Message----- ----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On ----- >Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- >Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 4:03 PM ----- >To: [email protected] ----- >Subject: Re: Fwd: Schirmer Engineering ----- > ----- >Roland, et al, ----- > ----- >I do not agree at all that the world of consulting is ----- >exemplified by this example at all. I have been a ----- >consultant in this industry for many years and have run ----- >across dozens of people like me who believe it is our ----- >job to be an advocate for the codes and standards we are ----- >providing opinions and technical support for. ----- > ----- >The unique position of being paid by an owner for an ----- >opinion which will be reviewed and accepted by an AHJ ----- >does not gran one license to provide opinions which are ----- >neither supported by facts or at least by supposition ----- >derived at by interpreting the facts. ----- > ----- >I beleive most consultants do the right thing and have ----- >good intentions. ----- >Like dozens of others who saw the video clip, I am at a ----- >loss to explain the position taken by the former SDFD ----- >Staff Engineer but I still beleive strongly that Fire ----- >Departments must have trust and faith in 3rd party ----- >consutants who are utilized where the FD doesn't have ----- >staff or expertise to review building uses, hazardous ----- >materials and storage arrays, etc. ----- > ----- >Must of us are credible and put fire and life safety ----- >ahead of the almighty dollar if for no other reasons ----- >than true passion and fear of the law suits which are ----- >sure to follow losses. ----- > ----- >Bob Caputo ----- >This thread isn't going away anytime soon. ----- > ----- > ----- > ----- >---- Roland Huggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ----- >> It's nice that you are giving their company the ----- >benefit of the doubt ----- >> but save your breath. ----- >> ----- >> I know of 4 cases were different offices have ----- >aggressively fought ----- >> sprinklers (3 in very recent years). This is not a ----- >case of a policeman ----- >> beating someone then one asking if that is the policy of the ----- >> department. Unfortunately they have shown that their ----- >company policy ----- >> is that for a fee they will ignore solid fire ----- >protection engineering ----- >> and voice the wants of their clients. ----- >> ----- >> That is the typical world of consulting. Nuff said on ----- >this thread me ----- >> thinks. ----- >> ----- >> Roland ----- >> ----- >_______________________________________________ ----- >Sprinklerforum mailing list ----- >[email protected] ----- >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum ----- > ----- >To Unsubscribe, send an email ----- >to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) ----- > ----- >_______________________________________________ ----- >Sprinklerforum mailing list ----- >[email protected] ----- >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum ----- > ----- >To Unsubscribe, send an email ----- >to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
