Typical floor drain will result in water all over the place when you do
test.  Should ask for at least a 3" HUB drain, provide adequate air gap
to comply with applicable plumbing code.    Hub drain is typically what
is used for things like condensate discharge off of HVAC units or other
drained discharge from equipment where you can not have a hard piped
connection to waste piping.  Other thing to ask is if there's any
restrictions by the local sewer district with you discharging sprinkler
water into the sanitary sewer system.    In some jurisdictions it's
considered contaminated and is not permitted to be discharged into the
sanitary sewer system.  Just ask up front to ward off any surprises
later.


Craig L. Prahl, CET
Fire Protection Group
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russell
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 11:08 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Main Drain Question

When you wet trip test the dry system, will the drain take it?

Ron

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark
Sornsin
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 10:19 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Main Drain Question

Without looking up the precise verbiage in NFPA 13, I say YES.

The Main Drain test is a water supply test - done to verify (to a
degree) that the incoming supply fully functional.  This is done by
comparing the current test results to the previous.  Conducting this
test on the dry system you describe would serve no purpose.  The drain
at the primary controls would be used for that.  Thus the dry system's
drain is really an auxiliary drain used only when the dry system is
being modified or maintained.  I say go ahead and pipe to the floor
drain.

Mark A. Sornsin, PE
Fire Protection Engineer
Ulteig Engineers, Inc. 
Fargo, ND
701.280.8591
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T.
Johnson, CFPS
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 8:33 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Main Drain Question

Hello Members,

We are installing a new wet system. Off of the wet system is a small dry
system with 6 sprinklers to protect a porch area. For us to pipe the
main drain of the dry system we need to core 2 walls to get to the
outside of the building, go up about 15'-0" to the roof of the porch,
and for the most part follow the dry system piping to the end of the
porch. 

My question is: 
If the control valves between the wet system and dry system are tampered
& monitored by the building fire alarm to ensure that they remain open,
can we use the main drain on the wet system to fulfill the main drain
test requirements, and just pipe the drain of the dry system to a floor
drain?

Thank you in advance,




       
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