I would have thought that 13-2002: 8.6.5.2.2 & table & figure would govern? Or educate me?
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland Huggins Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 10:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Floor-mounted vertical obstruction Similar to how we treat libraries where the 18 inch is violated by the aisles. Roland On Sep 11, 2007, at 7:03 AM, Ed Kramer wrote: > Dewayne, I don't think you can apply the 3-times rule to partial- > height walls. The 'appendix' section A.8.6.5.2.1.3 explains it's > intended for obstructions where water can be thrown over & under (such > as a horizontal pipe). If you have partial-height walls with less > than 18" of clear space from deflector to top-of-wall, I think you'll > need to install sprinklers within each 'compartment' (as if the walls > extended up to the roof deck). > > Ed Kramer > Littleton, CO > > >> We just looked at something similar yesterday AM, and #13-2002 >> 8.6.6 was >> pretty clear about just maintaining 18" clear below the deflector >> being adequate. The 3x rule started getting into the 6-deep cross- >> referenced rules where my eyes glazed over and we already had our >> answer. But you're half-way there! >> >> glc >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> Dewayne Martinez >> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:19 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Floor-mounted vertical obstruction >> >> I am not sure if this got up to the list yesterday so I am sending it >> again. >> It is odd that there was no response, any input would be appreciated. >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Dewayne Martinez >> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 11:23 AM >> To: '[email protected]' >> Subject: Floor-mounted vertical obstruction >> >> >> We are bidding a self storage building that will have partial height >> walls (5ft on center) to 2ft below the deck with chain link fence to >> the deck. This will be designed to an OH II density so the rules for >> floor-mounted vertical obstructions will not apply since they are for >> light hazard only. If we can arrange it so that the wall is more >> 18in >> below the sprinkler deflector can we ignore them per 8.6.5.3 (13 >> (o7ed))? If the top of the wall is closer that 18in to the deflector >> do we follow 3 times rule? Thanks for your input in advance. >> Dewayne Martinez, CET >> Design Build Fire Protection >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email to:Sprinklerforum- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject >> field) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email to:Sprinklerforum- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject >> field) > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:Sprinklerforum- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject > field) > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
